• Scoring Chances: G23 Blackhawks at Oilers, Nov 21

    by Dennis • November 22, 2009 • Uncategorized • 7 Comments

    Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 20324

    Team Period Time Note EDM Opponent  
    EDM 1 19:02 27 5 10 27 38 71 83 2 7 19 22 29 39 5v5
    CHI 1 16:11 5 22 38 46 71 89 5 10 19 25 39 88 5v5
    CHI 1 16:10 Goal 5 22 38 46 71 89 5 10 19 25 39 88 5v5
    EDM 1 15:36 27 10 24 27 38 44 83 5 10 19 25 39 88 5v5
    EDM 1 15:35 Goal 27 10 24 27 38 44 83 5 10 19 25 39 88 5v5
    EDM 1 14:34 10 5 10 27 38 77 83 4 11 32 33 39 51 5v5
    EDM 1 14:33 10 5 10 27 38 77 83 4 11 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 1 12:41 24 38 44 67 85 89 5 25 32 39 55 82 5v5
    CHI 1 12:40 Goal 24 38 44 67 85 89 5 25 32 39 55 82 5v5
    CHI 1 11:02 5 19 27 38 67 71 2 7 19 39 55 88 5v5
    EDM 1 8:56 18 5 13 16 18 38 71 5 25 32 33 39 88 5v5
    CHI 1 7:27 Goal 19 24 38 44 67 85 4 10 19 39 51 88 5v5
    CHI 1 1:55 10 24 38 44 67 85 2 7 10 39 46 82 5v5
    CHI 1 1:48 19 24 38 44 67 85 4 10 19 39 51 88 5v5
    CHI 1 0:49 5 19 38 67 71 85 2 11 16 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 2 19:23 10 24 27 38 44 83 2 7 11 16 22 39 5v5
    EDM 2 17:28 13 13 18 19 38 43 77 4 19 33 39 51 82 5v5
    EDM 2 16:34 27 PP 10 27 38 44 71 83 2 5 11 32 39 5v4
    CHI 2 15:21 SH 10 27 38 44 71 83 4 5 10 19 39 5v4
    CHI 2 15:01 SH 19 27 38 71 77 89 2 11 32 39 51 5v4
    EDM 2 14:38 16 16 19 38 43 77 89 2 5 7 33 39 46 5v5
    CHI 2 13:05 PP 16 18 24 38 44 2 10 19 22 39 51 4v5
    CHI 2 11:57 5 19 38 43 85 7 25 32 33 39 88 4v5
    CHI 2 10:50 5 19 38 77 83 85 4 11 16 22 39 51 5v5
    CHI 2 10:07 13 16 18 38 43 77 4 39 46 51 55 82 5v5
    CHI 2 10:06 13 16 18 38 43 77 4 39 46 51 55 82 5v5
    CHI 2 8:58 Goal 5 10 27 38 71 83 2 7 11 16 22 39 5v5
    CHI 2 5:41 18 24 27 38 44 89 2 7 19 33 39 82 5v5
    EDM 2 0:18 27 PP 10 27 38 44 71 83 2 7 11 32 39 5v4
    EDM 3 18:42 PP 71 10 24 27 38 71 83 4 5 11 32 39 5v4
    EDM 3 18:31 Goal 27 PP 10 24 27 38 71 83 4 5 11 32 39 5v4
    CHI 3 17:12 post 5 13 16 18 38 71 2 7 33 39 46 55 5v5
    EDM 3 16:51 27 10 27 38 43 77 83 2 7 11 16 22 39 5v5
    EDM 3 14:48 18 13 18 38 44 71 89 5 16 19 25 39 88 5v5
    CHI 3 14:26 post 5 13 18 38 71 89 2 7 39 46 55 82 5v5
    EDM 3 11:58 5 19 24 27 38 67 4 10 19 39 51 88 5v5
    EDM 3 11:31 18 5 13 18 38 71 89 5 25 32 33 39 55 5v5
    CHI 3 11:07 Goal PP 10 24 27 38 44 2 10 19 22 39 51 4v5
    CHI 3 7:36 5 19 27 38 67 71 4 10 19 39 51 88 5v5
    CHI 3 7:18 13 18 38 43 77 89 4 32 33 39 51 82 5v5
    EDM 3 3:51 13 5 13 18 38 71 89 2 7 11 16 22 39 5v5
    CHI 3 1:28 5 19 27 38 67 71 5 25 39 46 55 82 5v5
    EDM 3 0:45 67 19 27 38 43 67 77 4 5 39 46 55 82 5v5
    EDM 3 0:05 13 5 13 18 38 71 89 7 10 32 33 39 51 5v5
    # Player EV PP SH
    5 L. SMID 18:40 8 10 0:00 0 0 0:15 0 1
    10 S. HORCOFF 15:41 6 3 3:38 4 1 0:51 0 1
    13 A. COGLIANO 14:15 6 5 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    16 R. POTULNY 9:50 2 3 0:16 0 0 0:37 0 1
    18 E. MOREAU 13:31 6 6 0:00 0 0 1:12 0 1
    19 P. O’SULLIVAN 16:46 4 7 0:21 0 1 0:50 0 1
    22 J. JACQUES 9:01 0 2 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    24 S. STAIOS 15:56 3 7 0:43 2 0 1:49 0 2
    27 D. PENNER 17:41 8 6 3:43 4 2 0:51 0 1
    38 J. DESLAURIERS 53:43 15 20 3:59 4 2 2:18 0 3
    43 J. STRUDWICK 18:17 4 3 0:16 0 0 0:29 0 1
    44 S. SOURAY 16:46 3 7 2:48 2 1 1:49 0 2
    46 Z. STORTINI 7:37 0 2 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    67 G. BRULE 16:34 2 9 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    71 L. VISNOVSKY 18:03 6 9 2:45 4 2 0:00 0 0
    77 T. GILBERT 19:44 6 4 1:26 0 1 0:14 0 0
    83 A. HEMSKY 14:23 6 3 3:31 4 1 0:00 0 0
    85 L. REDDOX 14:05 0 7 0:00 0 0 0:15 0 1
    89 S. GAGNER 11:45 5 7 0:28 0 1 0:00 0 0
    Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
    1 6 9 6 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    2 4 10 2 6 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0
    3 9 6 7 5 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
    4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Totals 19 25 15 20 4 2 0 0 0 3 0 0

    7 Responses to Scoring Chances: G23 Blackhawks at Oilers, Nov 21

    1. Vic Ferrari
      November 22, 2009 at

      I only caught the first period, Dennis. Seemed like Quinn was getting active on the bench for the first time this season. Looking at this, though, hard to imagine that he thought playing Reddox/O’Sullivan/Brule against the Kane/Toews/Sharp line that much was a good idea.

      Horcoff seemed to play almost all of the last few minutes of the first, So Quinn must have been up to something. Maybe he was just afraid of sending anyone else out there, I dunno.

      And where the hell was Gagner on the goal where Smid inexplicably doubled back? I think Quinn is losing faith and playing a 4 + ‘one in’ instead of a 4 + ‘one on’. Still, Gagner should have been strong post, but he’s disappeared when the camera pans back.

      Even with benefit of the doubt, he should have been in strong support of Smid if it’s the latter. But dude just disappears. Presumably if he’d cheated out, he’d have gone to the boards on that strong side (foolishly), but at least Smid would have had somewhere to go. He wasn’t there either, WTF.

      I don’t have game tape, but presumably he was off in open space somewhere waving his stick in “I’m open!” fashion. It’s discouraging. Combined with Lubo bailing in the corner earlier, the guys I had left my faith with … they let me down.

      And this calling out of Hemsky is bullshit. Hemmer has been the first guy off the ice at practice for years, all of a sudden Brownlee and Gregor have the balls to point it out? My ass, those two fat queens don’t have one testicle between them.

      F me, every Avs practice for the last 10 years was an optional practice for Forsberg and Sakic, and they left when they feaking felt like it. Our oilersnation fat boys know this too, even they can’t possibly be that oblivious.

      Were Forsberg and Sakic poor leaders? Have Brownlee and Gregor been obedient Oiler bitches over the years? … I don’t know the answer to either question, but I have a good guess.

      Not to single out Joe and Foppa btw, same goes for dozens of star players in this league, of course.

    2. Vic Ferrari
      November 22, 2009 at

      Just to add:

      I should proofread before posting. WTF, ‘presumably’ is a good word.

      Just checking the sonnets on the sidebar. Damn, Staples is hilarious. No way in hell I’ll read the whole article, dude wrote a treatise. And nobody that matters will ever read it anyways, unless Tyler or Grabia link to it. And they will, sorry fucks that they are. Love ‘em both, but it’s true.

      You’d be surprised how inexpensive it is to get Staples to write whatever you want him to write. But at this point, does it matter? Is he relevant?

      I think he will have some small amount of relevance. Enough for a few quiet envelopes, expensie dinners, and golfing weekends in Palm Springs. This only so long as he does as told, and he always has.

      But those days are winding down for wee David. If Tyler and Grabia ignore him … he disappears.

      Seriously.

    3. November 23, 2009 at

      Gagner was out to lunch on the first two goals. On the first one Visnovsky left the front of the net to give Smid a passing option, and Smid was left to his own devices while Kane and Toews double teamed him, stripped him of the puck, and Toews walked in front for one, two whacks at it without an Oiler within ten feet. Gagner wasn’t even “also in frame”. On the end zone replay I could see somebody’s socks and skates out on the middle of the blue line, and the scoresheet said 89 was out there, so I’m guessing that was Gags, 40 feet out of position. Centre’s gotta be deep there in support of the puck.

    4. Quain
      November 23, 2009 at

      Hopefully Penner feels happy enough now without MacTavish riding him to make up for the fact that we have a coach who thinks it’s a good idea to allow the top line to fall into a matchup with the Hawk’s checking line and leave Kane/Toews to Brule/Reddox/Sully (truthfully, is Brule/Reddox a combo that gets above fourth line duties on a decent team?). I’m not really sure what value Quinn adds if he can’t run a decent bench… does he just sit in his office, look at game tape, and say to himself, “Shit, I can’t even recognize these queers with all these visors… fuck it, get out the gin! Time to tune this metronome!”

      I guess his new master plan is to squeeze a little more blood out of Hemsky, much to the delight of the ‘well, he’s a bad interview’ crowd. Consider me ecstatic!

    5. Dennis
      November 23, 2009 at

      Vic: I lost all faith in Quinn on Sat night once he allowed himself – as was pointed out by Quain – to have the 10 line matched with the Ladd/Madden line and then that mean Kane gets to tiptoe past the tulips.

      I was watching the game and all I could think about was Quinn ripping everyone else but that dolt can’t even figure out how to run his bench.

    6. Vic Ferrari
      November 23, 2009 at

      Quain:

      Yeah, I don’t know how much difference bench coaching really makes. Still, I admire guys like MacTavish, Hitchcock, Quenneville, etc. Crawford too, he’s running Brad Richards’ line at everyone now, he was a pure checking line guy when he had Bertuzzi/Naslund as his best players. He’s adapted to the roster, played the cards in his hand.

      Like Nolan, Quinn is a Shero disciple and likes to roll lines with short shifts. But it’s not 1982 any more. The other team doesn’t have guys playing two minute shifts.

      He doesn’t have a great roster, but personally I could take it more easily if I saw that he was trying to think his way out of trouble. He just rolls ‘em and then points fingers afterwards. I love the honesty, still, four fingers are pointing back at Pat.

      I mean all of Brule, O’Sullivan and Reddox are better hockey players than I could have ever been … but Jebus, do you really want them running against Kane/Toews/Sharp?

      Most of the west is power vs power coaches, so Quinn has appeared to be the same. But we both know damn well that when St. Louis comes to town Murray will have his checking line (McClement + ?) taking the most minutes against any line with two of Horcoff/Hemsky/Penner. And there isn’t a reason in the world that Quinn should be happy with that. But it will happen.

      I don’t hate Quinn or anything. A long time ago I went to Calgary on a business a lot, stayed at the Sheraton Eau Claire. You could smoke cigars inside then, they had an area on the mezzanine for that. Anyhow, one time I’m enjoying a cigar and the kitchen staff bring up a big smorgasbord, and the Leafs roll out of a conference room to dine, away from the unwashed masses.

      Firstly, I was impressed with how big that team was. They had some huge Russians on that squad. Not “working out big”, they were “walking around big”.

      Secondly, I started getting some evil glances, like I should butt out my cigar because they were the fucking Maple Leafs. Any other team, I probably would have done just that insinctively, but if you live in Canada you get subjected to a shitload of really poor quality TV out of Toronto, sports or otherwise. This is heavily subsidized by the government as well. It’s like Chicago daytime television broadcast nationwide 24/7/365. It’s too much. I’m sure you would agree that people in Denver would have an anti-Chicago bias if they were subjected to that relentlessly.

      So screw ‘em. I’m not butting it out. A few guys, coaches and mgmt types, talk with each other while glancing up at me. I’m thinking they’re going to tell me to piss off … and it’s not going to go well for anyone. But instead; this big, odd looking guy comes over and is remarkably decent. He acknowledges my right to smoke there, asks nicely if I would consider delaying my cigar for 20 minutes or so, and invites me to indulge in their smorg.

      Knocked me back a bit, I was expecting confrontation, which I don’t mind at all. Kinda what I do. And I have no interest in their food or rubbing shoulders with the Leafs. But he asked so damn nicely, I butted out and moved on. That speaks to the culture that Quinn created. Or so I think. And I’m a big believer in the value of that.

      As an aside, Tie Domi looked like the smallest guy on the team. Giant head, though, huge. A block-out-the-moon pumpkin on that guy. Not that I should talk, I have a big head too … but damn, that’s a big feaking melon on that cat, exaggerated by the fact that he has less of a neck than Barry Trotz. I bet he’s never been knocked out.

    7. Vic Ferrari
      November 23, 2009 at

      Dennis:

      That was Quinn trying. Seriously.

      Look at some of the other games. My shoddy, heavy handed programming is both vulnerable to hacking and CPU-taxing, but if you want access to shift charts fire me an email.

      Dude just rolls ‘em, brother. As I say, I’m no sure how much difference that really makes. Still, it would be nice to see him make the most of his influence as bench coach.

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