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Scoring Chances: G17 Oilers at Avalanche, Nov 8th

By Dennis

Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 20239

Team	Period	Time	Note	EDM						Opponent
EDM	1	16:49	19	19	27	35	41	71	89	8	22	26	27	41	54	5v5
EDM	1	16:25	19	19	24	27	35	41	89	8	22	26	27	41	54	5v5
EDM	1	15:13	Goal PP 91	19	27	35	71	89	91	5	26	37	41	52		5v4
COL	1	13:38		13	18	24	35	37		5	9	10	25	41	55	4v5
COL	1	12:00	Goal	13	18	19	35	41	77	25	26	27	40	41	52	5v5
COL	1	11:11		12	24	35	37	67	91	5	7	11	15	41	44	5v5
COL	1	9:51		19	27	35	43	77	89	8	10	26	41	52	54	5v5
COL	1	9:06		19	24	35	37	85	89	15	22	27	37	40	41	5v5
COL	1	9:03		19	24	35	37	85	89	22	27	37	40	41	55	5v5
COL	1	8:50		13	34	35	71	77	85	22	37	40	41	44	55	5v5
EDM	1	5:12	Goal PP 77	12	16	35	37	67	77	22	26	27	37	41		5v4
EDM	1	3:00	12	12	35	41	67	71	91	9	22	27	40	41	55	5v5
COL	1	1:49		13	34	35	37	71	85	5	8	10	26	41	54	5v5
EDM	1	1:21	27	19	24	27	35	37	89	15	25	27	37	41	52	5v5
EDM	1	0:58	Goal PP 27	19	27	35	71	89	91	9	22	27	37	41		5v4
EDM	2	18:52	PP 89	19	27	35	71	89	91	5	37	41	52	54		5v4
COL	2	17:59		24	34	35	43	85		8	26	27	37	40	41	4v5
COL	2	16:24	PP	34	35	41	77	85		5	9	10	25	41	55	4v5
COL	2	16:03	PP	16	18	24	35	43		10	11	15	41	52	54	4v5
COL	2	15:27		12	35	41	67	71	91	5	7	8	26	41	44	5v5
COL	2	15:04	Goal	12	35	41	67	71	91	5	7	8	26	41	44	5v5
COL	2	10:55		34	35	41	67	71	91	9	10	40	41	52	55	5v5
COL	2	10:10	PP	19	24	27	35	43		8	26	27	37	40	41	4v5
COL	2	7:56		12	35	37	67	71	91	7	11	41	44	52	55	5v5
EDM	2	7:12	46	16	24	27	35	37	46	5	11	15	41	44	54	5v5
COL	2	6:57		19	24	27	35	37	89	5	11	15	41	44	54	5v5
COL	2	6:51		19	24	27	35	37	89	8	26	27	41	52	54	5v5
COL	2	1:27	PP	19	35	43	77	89		5	10	11	25	41	55	4v5
EDM	3	15:14	Goal PP 16	13	34	35	43	77	85	7	8	26	27	41	44	5v5
COL	3	12:33	Goal	12	35	41	67	71	91	22	26	27	41	54	55	5v5
EDM	3	9:22	18	16	18	35	43	46	77	7	11	41	44	52	54	5v5
EDM	3	8:14	PP 27	19	27	35	71	89	91	22	27	41	54	55		5v4
EDM	3	7:31	PP 89	27	35	71	77	89	91	8	15	27	41	52		5v4
COL	3	6:00		13	34	35	43	77	85	8	9	10	41	52	54	5v5
EDM	3	5:50	85	13	34	35	43	77	85	8	9	10	41	52	54	5v5
EDM	3	3:22	85	13	24	34	35	43	85	5	7	9	27	40	41	5v5
EDM	3	3:21	Goal 13	13	24	34	35	43	85	5	7	9	27	40	41	5v5

#	Player	EV			PP			SH
12	R. NILSSON	8:39	1	5	2:01	1	0	0:00	0	0
13	A. COGLIANO	11:22	4	4	0:19	0	0	1:43	0	1
16	R. POTULNY	10:13	2	0	1:57	1	0	0:15	0	1
18	E. MOREAU	11:48	1	1	0:01	0	0	2:18	0	2
19	P. O’SULLIVAN	13:23	3	6	5:53	4	0	3:02	0	2
24	S. STAIOS	14:39	5	5	0:19	0	0	4:28	0	4
27	D. PENNER	12:48	4	3	6:21	5	0	3:21	0	1
34	F. PISANI	10:32	4	4	0:14	0	0	2:53	0	2
35	N. KHABIBULIN	43:27	10	15	8:29	6	0	8:00	0	6
37	D. GREBESHKOV	16:40	2	7	1:49	1	0	1:08	0	1
41	T. CHORNEY	11:56	3	5	0:00	0	0	2:15	0	1
43	J. STRUDWICK	12:38	5	2	0:19	0	0	4:37	0	4
46	Z. STORTINI	10:30	2	0	0:01	0	0	0:00	0	0
67	G. BRULE	8:51	1	6	1:53	1	0	0:00	0	0
71	L. VISNOVSKY	15:06	2	7	6:21	5	0	0:00	0	0
77	T. GILBERT	16:09	3	4	2:17	2	0	3:32	0	2
85	L. REDDOX	9:57	4	5	0:14	0	0	2:06	0	2
89	S. GAGNER	12:20	3	5	6:13	5	0	0:22	0	1
91	M. COMRIE	10:08	1	6	6:13	5	0	0:00	0	0

Period	Totals		EV		PP		5v3 PP		SH		5v3 SH
1	7	8	4	7	3	0	0	0	0	1	0	0
2	2	11	1	6	1	0	0	0	0	5	0	0
3	7	2	5	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals	16	21	10	15	6	0	0	0	0	6	0	0

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Scott Reynolds says:

November 9th, 2009 at

I think that, by the chances, this may have been 71’s worst game of the season. And they didn’t have Hemsky, Souray or Horc. And they won. Go figure.

Vic Ferrari says:

November 10th, 2009 at

Potulny just keeps getting it done, eh? Even playing with Stortini and Moreau. Last year, by scoring chances and corsi, he was pretty close to scratch. The rest of the fringe guys and AHL callups got absolutely massacred by both measures. Looked good by eye too. Apparently played 8 games last year, that’s more than I remember.

How the hell did Potulny and Stortini manage to lead the forwards in corsi ( 0 and +1) and scoring chance +/- (+2 and +2) yet Moreau ends up even at chances, and a whopping -8 at corsi. I don’t remember then playing apart, someone must have gotten a couple or a few shifts in Moreau’s spot, or Ethan took a couple of extra EV shifts after the PP’s maybe.

The criticism of Potulney seems to be his footspeed, but he always seems to get to the right places on time. He may look slow in practice, but it doesn’t seem to reveal itself in the games.

In any case, Moreau and Pisani are well and truly done. Moreau was never hell in the first place, but injury and age have taken their toll. And it’s not our fault that Fernando got colitis, and injuries have piled on top of that, he’s been brutal ever since.

I wonder what Smid’s scoring chance numbers look like sans-Lubo? I bet they’re ugly. They should play Smid with Lubo all year and then trade him at the deadline. I’m starting to think that I could look good playing with Lubo. I’d just pass him the puck straight away, while Vis still had some space around him, then move to open space in a conservative while.

That Chorney is a grenade thrower, he can’t play against good NHL players.

Back on Potulney: Ryan Stone is the other B List prospect who actually looks like he could be a genuinely useful player in this league. He came across in the Garon trade, no? Potulney in the Syvret trade I think (In fairness to Syvret, according to Geoff Ward his brutal AHL plus/minus was misleading, his scoring chance plus/minus was pretty decent. If true, that would really have hurt his point totals too. He probably had more trade value than we imagined by looking at the AHL boxcar numbers).

Maybe the Oilers should trade all of their fringe NHLers and B list prospects for the same from other teams.

In any case, the depth is still geting murdered, it looks like the gap between the good players and the drek has widened even further. In truth I imagined it has narrowed a bit. Quinn just isn’t making as much effort to protect guys like Gagner, Cogliano and Nilsson by running them with at least one or two of the following in play (against tired legs, weak opp esp when leading, offensive zone draws).

There isn’t much evidence to suggest that Oilers mgmnt are going to fix the problem, either. Buckle up, Dennis, then pray to the hockey gods, esp the ones in charge of special teams. Reasonably healthy I think the Oilers would struggle to grab 50% of the territorial advantage and 50% of the scoring chances against average NHL competition … and they may well be in a hole before that mythical ‘fairly healthy squad’ takes the ice.