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Scoring Chances: G16 Rangers at Oilers, Nov 6th

By Dennis

Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 20216

Team	Period	Time	Note	EDM						Opponent
NYR	1	18:37		12	18	19	35	41	71	6	12	21	40	42	97	5v5
EDM	1	14:41	PP 83	19	27	35	71	83	89	6	23	24	40	97		5v4
NYR	1	12:37		27	35	37	77	83	89	5	10	17	18	20	40	5v5
NYR	1	12:03		12	19	24	35	43	91	6	12	21	40	42	97	5v5
EDM	1	8:11	PP 77	12	35	37	46	77	91	5	18	21	22	40		5v4
NYR	1	7:01		24	33	35	41	46	67	6	20	23	40	81	97	5v5
EDM	1	5:43	27	27	35	37	77	83	89	4	5	10	16	17	40	5v5
NYR	1	4:53		13	18	24	34	35	43	18	21	22	24	40	97	5v5
NYR	1	4:32	Goal	12	19	24	35	41	91	6	17	21	24	40	97	5v5
NYR	1	3:49		12	19	35	41	71	91	5	18	23	24	40	81	5v5
EDM	1	3:24	83	27	35	37	77	83	89	5	10	17	18	20	40	5v5
NYR	1	3:16		27	35	37	77	83	89	5	10	17	18	20	40	5v5
NYR	1	3:06		27	35	37	77	83	89	10	17	18	20	40	97	5v5
NYR	1	2:57		27	35	37	77	83	89	6	10	17	20	40	97	5v5
EDM	1	1:31	13	12	13	35	41	71	91	4	21	22	23	33	40	5v5
EDM	1	0:50	PP 27 post	19	27	35	71	83	89	5	10	17	18	40		5v4
NYR	2	19:03		12	19	35	37	77	91	6	10	17	20	40	97	5v5
NYR	2	18:28		13	18	19	35	37	77	6	10	17	20	40	97	5v5
NYR	2	17:57		13	18	34	35	37	77	4	12	21	33	40	42	5v5
NYR	2	16:52		27	35	41	46	67	71	5	16	18	22	40	81	5v5
NYR	2	15:13		19	35	37	77	83	91	4	10	21	33	40	42	5v5
EDM	2	14:52	12	12	19	35	37	77	91	4	12	21	33	40	42	5v5
EDM	2	13:11	PP 71	12	19	35	46	71	83	6	23	24	40	97		5v4
EDM	2	12:56	PP 71	12	19	35	46	71	83	6	23	24	40	97		5v4
NYR	2	11:31		18	24	35	43	83	89	4	10	20	33	40	42	5v5
EDM	2	10:57	27	27	35	41	71	83	89	12	16	18	22	33	40	5v5
EDM	2	10:26	83	27	35	41	71	83	89	5	18	23	24	40	81	5v5
NYR	2	9:49	PP	19	34	35	37	77		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
NYR	2	9:24	Goal PP	19	34	35	37	77		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
NYR	2	8:50		24	27	35	43	83	89	5	18	23	24	40	81	5v5
NYR	2	6:51		13	18	34	35	37	77	4	16	22	33	34	40	5v5
NYR	2	5:35		24	35	43	46	67	91	6	23	24	40	81	97	5v5
EDM	2	5:08	Goal 71	27	35	41	71	83	89	5	12	18	21	40	42	5v5
NYR	2	4:14	PP	19	27	35	37	77		4	12	17	21	23	40	4v5
NYR	2	3:35	PP	19	27	35	37	77		4	12	17	21	23	40	4v5
NYR	2	3:34	PP	19	27	35	37	77		4	12	17	21	23	40	4v5
NYR	2	3:23	Goal PP	13	18	35	41	43		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
EDM	2	1:25	34	13	18	34	35	37	77	4	10	21	33	40	42	5v5
NYR	2	0:02	PP	13	18	24	35	37		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
NYR	3	18:59	PP	13	18	35	37	41		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
EDM	3	17:40	27	27	35	41	71	83	89	5	16	18	23	24	40	5v5
EDM	3	17:07	89	27	35	41	46	71	89	4	16	23	33	34	40	5v5
NYR	3	15:10	PP	13	18	35	41	43		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
NYR	3	14:52	PP post	19	27	35	41	43		17	18	21	23	33	40	4v5
NYR	3	14:05	PP	13	18	35	37	77		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
EDM	3	13:08	SH 27	19	27	35	41	43		17	21	23	33	40	97	4v5
NYR	3	12:29	Goal PP	13	18	35	37	77		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
NYR	3	12:30	PP	13	18	35	37	77		4	10	12	20	24	40	4v5
NYR	3	10:12		19	35	41	67	71	91	6	21	22	34	40	97	5v5
EDM	3	9:43	Goal 91	19	24	35	43	67	91	6	16	22	34	40	97	5v5
EDM	3	9:30	13	13	18	24	35	43	46	4	10	17	20	33	40	5v5
NYR	3	5:11	PP	13	34	35	41	43		10	18	20	24	40	97	4v5
EDM	3	4:24	19	18	19	35	37	67	77	12	17	18	21	40	97	5v5
EDM	3	1:14	27	19	27	71	83	89	91	5	10	17	18	20	40	5v5

#	Player	EV			PP			SH
12	R. NILSSON	7:14	2	5	3:45	3	0	0:00	0	0
13	A. COGLIANO	10:29	3	4	0:46	0	0	5:03	0	8
18	E. MOREAU	9:26	3	6	0:15	0	0	3:34	0	7
19	P. O’SULLIVAN	13:23	4	8	4:17	4	0	5:40	1	6
24	S. STAIOS	12:38	2	7	0:18	0	0	0:21	0	1
27	D. PENNER	12:34	8	6	4:56	2	0	4:48	1	4
33	S. MACINTYRE	1:24	0	1	0:00	0	0	0:00	0	0
34	F. PISANI	9:27	1	3	0:15	0	0	3:20	0	3
35	N. KHABIBULIN	38:27	13	20	8:00	5	0	11:18	1	14
37	D. GREBESHKOV	15:35	5	9	2:08	1	0	7:25	0	10
41	T. CHORNEY	12:54	6	6	0:29	0	0	4:54	1	5
43	J. STRUDWICK	8:45	2	5	0:06	0	0	3:57	1	4
46	Z. STORTINI	9:43	2	3	2:18	3	0	0:00	0	0
67	G. BRULE	10:04	2	4	0:06	0	0	0:11	0	0
71	L. VISNOVSKY	15:31	7	4	5:37	4	0	0:00	0	0
77	T. GILBERT	13:56	5	9	3:05	1	0	5:59	0	8
83	A. HEMSKY	14:24	7	7	5:05	4	0	0:00	0	0
89	S. GAGNER	14:07	8	6	3:54	2	0	0:00	0	0
91	M. COMRIE	14:11	4	7	2:40	1	0	0:00	0	0

Period	Totals		EV		PP		5v3 PP		SH		5v3 SH
1	6	10	3	10	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	7	16	5	9	2	0	0	0	0	7	0	0
3	7	8	6	1	0	0	0	0	1	7	0	0
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals	20	34	14	20	5	0	0	0	1	14	0	0

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Olivier says:

November 6th, 2009 at

Amazing how many chances a team can rake up on the PP eh?

Scott Reynolds says:

Hey Dennis,

I was just wondering if you’d scored or are planning to score the Red Wings game. I’d be interested to see how badly the Oilers got killed in the third there.

Also, isn’t it interesting that, almost without fail, no matter how badly the team loses the chance battle, Lubo just chugs along. Rough first game back for Staios too. He seemed to want to be physical and really get into the game and he ended up making some awkwards hits and playing out of position.

Dennis says:

Olivier: The Oilers just got raked last night on the PK; I haven’t been keeping track but it might be the worst night yet and it has to be the worst in terms of chances per opposition opportunities.

Scott: Yeah, I have the Wings game logged in a notebook and I’ll post the results tomorrow.

BTW, I didn’t have to check because I knew it by heart but the Oil were outchanced 1-16 in the third period of that game.

jesse r says:

Dennis, thanks for these. I didn’t see the game, but it sure looks to me like O’Sullivan is is being leaned on a little bit in terms of ice time in all situations right now.

spOILer says:

The site lives again! Thanks for all the hard work Dennis. Hopefully your e-landlord returns from sampling the tasty treats of European hostelry hale and healthy.

Vic Ferrari says:

Damn, that’s ugly. Glad I never watched it.

By your numbers, if I’ve added right, Hemsky was 5-0 in scoring chances at EV when he was on the ice with Lubo. Looks like Renney only started to match Lubo up with the top line midway through the game.

Quinn, I assume, just rolled the forward lines. One day I’ll look at how much icetime the Oilers bottom 6 forwards has played against the other team’s top six. Especially late in the game when the Oilers are clinging to a lead. It’s gonna be fugly, I suspect they’ll have no peers by this measure.

Pat isn’t helping himself here, Dennis. Looks like he’s trying to play Shero hockey but he doesn’t have a Shero roster. He’d have been the perfect coach for the 03/04 or 05/06 Oilers though.

RiversQ says:

He’d have been the perfect coach for the 03/04 or 05/06 Oilers though.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I was thinking this while watching the Boston debacle. Julien had Chara hard matched against the top line (fucking duh, what else would you do?) and would even double shift him on occasion to catch the kid line too.

Meanwhile Quinn lets this happen for about 50 minutes of stuttering, struggling and stupefying gametime until finally in the 3rd he gets this novel idea of trying to dodge the Chara matchup. Of course, on the first shift this happens, the Bruins pot their second goal to ice the game. Who knows what lessons old Pat took home from that one.

Yeah, Julien was running Bergeron’s forward line against him as well. To a fan from the Eastern Conference looking at matchup numbers for the Oilers … they must think that Quinn is a power vs power guy. Really it’s just that most of his opponents are PVP coaches (unless the Oilers are leading late). He thinks twice before defensive zone faceoffs … beyond that it’s a steady rhythm.

November 7th, 2009 at

Vic: Yeah, it’s something we haven’t really gotten into yet but Quinn doesn’t seem to lose any sleep over matching lines.

And I don’t think he’s got a real feel for this team yet because he had 18 out there the other night as an extra attacker.

I mean, yes, MacT would also do that stuff on occasion but that was blind loyalty. There’s no reason for Quinn to do something like that because those decisions should be made based on the stats sheet.

Anyway, remember all the old talk from TO about Quinn not giving Sundin enough TOI? You can look at that and figure out that means the guy was just rolling the lines without much thought for matching because if the opposite was true, then Sundin’s TOI would’ve been higher.