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Scoring chances for/against: Jan 16th: Edm at Col

By Dennis

Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 20661

Team	Period	Time	Note	Oilers						Opponent
COL	1	18:18		13	18	32	44	77	78	1	4	5	16	39	55	5v5
EDM	1	17:50	Goal	5	21	24	26	32	89	1	4	5	37	40	42	5v5
EDM	1	16:27		10	27	32	44	77	85	1	8	22	23	24	94	5v5
EDM	1	14:43		32	37	43	51	67	71	1	4	5	37	40	42	5v5
EDM	1	14:41		32	37	43	51	67	71	1	4	5	37	40	42	5v5
EDM	1	13:10		21	26	32	44	77	89	1	8	23	29	44	94	5v5
EDM	1	12:51		21	26	32	44	77	89	1	8	23	29	44	94	5v5
COL	1	12:31		5	10	24	27	32	85	1	8	23	29	44	94	5v5
COL	1	12:11		5	10	24	27	32	85	1	23	24	37	44	94	5v5
COL	1	11:53		5	10	24	27	32	85	1	22	24	37	40	94	5v5
COL	1	11:25		10	32	37	51	67	71	1	5	22	37	40	42	5v5
EDM	1	10:50		32	44	51	67	77	89	1	5	22	37	40	42	5v5
EDM	1	10:40		32	44	51	67	77	89	1	5	16	22	37	55	5v5
EDM	1	10:38		32	44	51	67	77	89	1	5	16	22	37	55	5v5
EDM	1	10:01		21	26	32	44	77	89	1	16	39	44	48	55	5v5
EDM	1	7:58		21	26	32	44	51	77	1	5	29	37	40	42	5v5
COL	1	6:15		21	24	26	32	37	89	1	4	5	16	39	55	5v5
EDM	1	6:08		21	26	32	37	71	89	1	5	16	29	39	55	5v5
COL	1	4:20		10	27	32	37	71	85	1	8	18	22	24	94	5v5
COL	1	3:37	Goal	13	18	32	37	71	78	1	4	5	16	39	55	5v5
EDM	1	2:08		10	21	26	32	44	77	1	8	22	23	24	94	5v5
COL	1	1:56		10	21	32	44	77	85	1	4	5	8	23	94	5v5
EDM	1	0:37	PP Goal	26	32	44	77	78	89	1	22	23	24	94		5v4
COL	2	19:12	PP	10	24	32	44	51		1	4	5	8	23	94	4v5
COL	2	18:54	PP	10	24	32	44	51		1	4	5	8	23	94	4v5
COL	2	18:04	PP	18	26	32	37	77		1	5	8	23	44	94	4v5
COL	2	17:54	PP	18	26	32	37	77		1	5	8	23	44	94	4v5
COL	2	16:06		21	26	32	44	77	89	1	18	22	28	29	94	5v5
COL	2	14:14		5	13	18	24	32	78	1	29	37	40	42	44	5v5
EDM	2	13:58		5	13	18	24	32	78	1	29	37	40	42	44	5v5
COL	2	8:41		18	32	37	51	71	78	1	16	29	39	44	55	5v5
EDM	2	8:10		18	32	37	51	71	78	1	16	29	39	44	55	5v5
COL	2	7:32	Goal	5	24	27	32	51	85	1	4	5	37	40	42	5v5
EDM	2	3:11		21	26	32	37	71	89	1	4	5	8	16	94	5v5
COL	2	2:54		26	27	32	37	71	89	1	8	16	22	24	94	5v5
COL	2	1:39	PK	26	32	44	77	78	89	1	5	28	29	94		5v4
EDM	2	1:32	PP	26	32	44	77	78	89	1	5	28	29	94		5v4
EDM	2	0:09	PP	10	13	27	32	37	71	1	18	22	24	28		5v4
EDM	3	18:57		10	27	32	44	77	85	1	4	5	8	23	94	5v5
COL	3	14:28	PP	26	32	37	51	77		1	16	24	37	40	44	4v5
COL	3	14:14	PP	26	32	37	51	77		1	16	24	37	40	44	4v5
COL	3	14:07	PP	10	24	32	44	51		1	4	5	8	23	94	4v5
EDM	3	13:20		5	18	26	32	71	89	1	22	24	39	42	55	5v5
COL	3	12:21	PP	10	24	32	44	51		1	4	8	23	44	94	4v5
COL	3	12:12	PP	10	24	32	44	51		1	4	8	23	44	94	4v5
COL	3	11:56	PP	10	24	32	44	51		1	4	8	23	44	94	4v5
EDM	3	10:55		5	10	13	32	37	77	1	22	24	39	40		5v4
EDM	3	6:37		10	18	32	37	51	71	1	22	24	28	55	94	5v5
EDM	3	6:35	Goal	10	18	32	37	51	71	1	22	24	28	55	94	5v5
COL	3	6:25		5	13	18	24	32	85	1	4	16	39	44	55	5v5
COL	3	5:47		10	18	32	44	77	78	1	5	37	40	42	48	5v5
COL	3	5:27		32	44	77	78	85	89	1	5	37	40	42	48	5v5
EDM	3	1:48		13	18	24	32	37	78	1	16	24	39	44	55	5v5
COL	3	0:50		10	18	24	32	44	51	5	8	23	24	40	94	5v5

#	Player	EV			PP			SH
5	L. SMID	14:45	3	6	0:03	1	0	0:00	0	0
10	S. HORCOFF	20:26	5	8	1:58	2	0	3:42	0	6
13	A. COGLIANO	12:15	2	4	2:31	2	0	0:00	0	0
18	E. MOREAU	13:34	6	7	0:38	0	0	2:03	0	2
21	R. POTULNY	13:08	8	3	0:00	0	0	0:00	0	0
24	S. STAIOS	14:12	3	8	0:00	0	0	3:46	0	6
26	E. COLE	13:34	9	3	3:46	2	1	1:44	0	4
27	D. PENNER	11:30	2	6	1:00	1	0	0:00	0	0
32	M. GARON	48:14	21	18	6:17	4	1	5:26	0	10
37	D. GREBESHKOV	17:28	8	6	1:49	2	0	1:40	0	4
43	J. STRUDWICK	3:50	2	0	0:00	0	0	0:00	0	0
44	S. SOURAY	16:04	10	6	4:28	2	1	3:46	0	6
51	K. BRODZIAK	8:47	9	4	0:15	0	0	3:00	0	8
67	G. BRULE	7:08	5	1	0:00	0	0	0:00	0	0
71	L. VISNOVSKY	17:26	8	5	3:16	1	0	0:00	0	0
77	T. GILBERT	16:39	10	5	3:01	3	1	1:40	0	4
78	M. POULIOT	10:22	3	6	3:36	2	1	0:00	0	0
85	L. REDDOX	16:16	2	8	1:15	0	0	0:23	0	0
89	S. GAGNER	13:30	10	4	3:49	2	1	0:00	0	0

Period	Totals		EV		PP		5v3 PP		SH		5v3 SH
1	14	9	13	9	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	5	10	3	5	2	1	0	0	0	4	0	0
3	6	10	5	4	1	0	0	0	0	6	0	0
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals	25	29	21	18	4	1	0	0	0	10	0	0

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Dennis says:

January 17th, 2009 at

The Avs are themselves short-stacked but the Oilers are playing without all of Hemsky, Pisani and Nilsson so it’s a decent enough effort to outchance a road team at EV in the second half of a BTB.

The Oil did sag in the last 40 min after a furious start but the main culprit was the PK. Garon rebounded to make some fine saves in the final frame but as we can attest from over 40 games of evidence, you won’t survive while giving up the kinds of chances the Oilers did tonight.

Other things:

- another rough night for the 5-24 tandem. I didn’t get a chance to log the 4-1 loss vs SJ but since the New Year these guys have only been propped up by a stellar game vs Dal or else their SC numbers would be ghastly. Also, the majority of that sample size has come at home when MacT has the change and most certainly isn’t asking them to take on the toughs.

- Big praise to the 21-89-26 line once again. The 89-26 chem seems bonafide and Young Poultny likes that beat And he can dance to it to boot.

- 44/77 show numbers the befit a tough minute tandem

Pat Mc says:

Great stuff Dennis, haven’t been commenting as much lately but reading it always.

Hit submit too fast - what’s your take on Souray - I’m going to do a post on him soon.

Hard to believe the season he is having compared to his last one in Montreal.

Pat: The guy is at least a top four dman who does well on the PP. Not sure what the difference is when 44/71 took on the toughs as opposed to 44/77 but that might be telling.

And from a Newfoundlandy perspective, I like that he can “beat the face off” people:D

I was in Montreal soon after he signed with Edmonton and whilst out on the lash (a fancy irish term for tying one on) I talked to a Habs fan about 44.

His take was better you then me signing him but the one thing he gave Souray was that he had never seen him lose a fight and he usually won big.

He’s having a fine year though - who was his partner in Mtl. - Rivet?

Secondary minutes and he got killed. Who knew?

January 18th, 2009 at

I know I saw him a few games in ‘07 when he was on the third pairing with Niinimaa;)

But, yeah, seems that Rivet was his usual partner. I’m sure if you asked Vic he’d find you a whole ream of numbers concerning his most frequent linemates and the qualcomp.

My opinion is that all of this is a mirage. I mean, just how many guys turn it around defensively to this point at this age? Maybe that’s a precedent for this and it would make me feel better if there was.

But is there?

Scott says:

January 20th, 2009 at

Totals (Player,EV,PP,SH)

05 - 27 - 080/105 - 001/000 - 003/013
10 - 40 - 184/161 - 100/009 - 010/096
12 - 31 - 116/115 - 034/010 - 000/000
13 - 40 - 137/136 - 043/012 - 002/020
18 - 39 - 122/184 - 002/000 - 009/073
21 - 04 - 019/013 - 000/000 - 000/000
24 - 38 - 115/162 - 002/000 - 006/112
26 - 40 - 153/144 - 051/009 - 010/024
27 - 38 - 138/133 - 069/005 - 002/028
28 - 02 - 002/002 - 000/000 - 000/000
33 - 13 - 006/010 - 000/000 - 000/000
34 - 16 - 048/062 - 000/001 - 001/023
37 - 37 - 189/165 - 039/008 - 001/025
43 - 32 - 067/090 - 000/000 - 004/037
44 - 39 - 187/196 - 113/013 - 011/088
46 - 24 - 030/038 - 000/000 - 000/000
49 - 01 - 004/000 - 000/000 - 000/001
51 - 38 - 087/111 - 001/000 - 010/073
62 - 01 - 001/000 - 000/000 - 000/003
67 - 09 - 023/030 - 002/001 - 000/000
71 - 40 - 230/187 - 110/015 - 003/012
77 - 40 - 192/205 - 052/010 - 009/072
78 - 37 - 104/103 - 024/001 - 000/003
83 - 31 - 132/115 - 082/008 - 000/002
85 - 20 - 040/060 - 000/000 - 000/013
88 - 04 - 010/015 - 002/002 - 000/000
89 - 37 - 154/136 - 053/011 - 002/006