Two pretty amazing quotes in the Edmonton Sun today, courtesy of what I can only assume was a MacT recovering from a truth serum laced turkey:
“He [Ladislav Smid] has not had any protection in terms of matchups and ice time. For a 20 year old that’s saying something about him. But at the same time you have to understand that it’s pretty rigorous for him right now and he needs a little bit of a break.”
Huh. Obviously, the coaching staff isn’t going to bury a 20 year old rookie defenceman in the press but this about as close as they’ve ever come to doing so. I found this one even more amazing though:
“He’s [Ryan Smyth] dealt with so many injuries and I think at times we’ve made mistakes getting him back too soon.”
This is probably code for “Smyth is playing tomorrow” but still, an amazingly accurate assessment for an organization that is so notorious for playing guys who are all banged up that I’ve often wondered if Kevin Lowe picks an entirely different meaning out of that famous story about walking past the Islanders dressing room after they won the Cup than everyone else does. My theory is that Lowe saw all those guys who were all beat up and battered and concluded not that you had to be willing to pay that kind of price to win but that you in fact needed to play while actually suffering from injuries if you wanted to win. It’s about all that would explain some of the decisions to dress guys over the years.
I wrote this while watching the TSN broadcast of Vancouver and Calgary. Between the second and third period, James Duthie and Darren Dreger were asking Mike Keenan about Roberto Luongo’s contract. Keenan comes back with his mealy mouthed answer about how Roberto Luongo had yet to play in a playoff game. He also says that he offered Luongo $30MM for 5 years and snidely notes that Luongo only got $27.5MM for 4 years from Vancouver. Now, time will tell but is that fifth year really only worth $2.5MM? Seems pretty unlikely to me. If I was Roberto Luongo, I’d have bet that it was worth more.
Even worse, neither Dreger nor Duthie had the guts to ask Keenan if maybe, just maybe, the reason Luongo has yet to be in the playoffs has nothing to do with his own play and everything to do with the team in front of him. Vancouver is a pretty weak looking team this year and they’re first in one of the league’s good divisions. Florida couldn’t make the playoffs in the bad conference with him - does that fall on his shoulders or Keenan’s?
Courtesy of Tangotiger and the Book Blog, here’s a link to Andy Dolphin’s NHL ratings. I like what he’s doing here. More support for the “The East Sucks” view as well: Dolphin has 8 of the top 9 teams coming from the Western Conference. I’ll have to poke around in his methodology - he and Jeff Sagarin clearly disagree on the strength of the various divisions - Dolphin has the NW as being the best division in the league (I lean that way myself) and Sagarin has them third. I’m inclined to lean towards Dolphin as being correct.
The Onion has its NHL preview up. My favourite quote:
“I still can’t believe they skate the entire time,” said Phoenix resident Brent Quigley. “I’ve never managed to actually see more than a couple games back when they used to show them, and I’ve never been to one, because it’s a pretty long drive to Los Angeles.”
Fantastic. I’m eagerly awaiting this story’s appearance on Kukla’s Korner.
As part of my ongoing effort to throw up some of the tons of information in my computer, I’ve added individual ES stats through game 472. It’s sorted by ESP/60, with a minimum of 200 minutes played. It should be fairly accurate - at the end of the year, I’m going to go through and tidy up the loose ends. People like the Regehrs kind of muck it up a little bit - two “R. Regehr”’s playing for Calgary? Thanks. If there are multiple players with an abbreviated name (”R. Regehr”, “J. Williams”, “V. Kozlov” and “A. Picard”, for example), my low tech spreadsheet counts the points too many times, so keep that in mind. Obviously, for 98% of guys, it’s no problem whatsoever.
Of note: I’m pleased to conclude that I was on the right side of history in the great Crosby/Ovechkin debate. I thought it was a good idea to invade Iraq but it’s nice to know that I’m right about the stuff that matters. People on the Ovechkin side have to be feeling a little silly at the moment. Ovechkin is having a good year, his ES scoring is up…Crosby is just playing on a different level. Ovechkin is scoring 2.96 ESP/60, up from last year’s 2.68. Crosby is scoring 4.95 ESP/60, up from last years 2.84 ESP/60. Sidney Crosby gets more ESP/60 than Chicago, St. Louis and Phoenix score PPG/60. Amazing.
He’s not just putting up great scoring numbers either - when Sid is on the ice, Pittsburgh scores 5.10 ESG/60 and they allow 1.85 ESG/60 - that’s the second best figure of any player who has at least 200 minutes of ESTOI. When Crosby isn’t on the ice, Pittsburgh is…how do I put this…fucking horrible looking. When they’re playing well. They score 1.83 ESG/60 and allow 2.88 ESG/60.
Crosby has been in on 97% of the ES goals that the Pens have scored with him on the ice as well - a ridiculous, ridiculous number. He’s unbelievable.
He’s 16th in PPP/60 amongst guys who’ve played at least 60 minutes of PP time which is very respectable - no one with his minutes is above him and I suspect that he pretty much is the Penguins PP.
I have a hard time seeing any argument that Crosby isn’t the best skater in the league right now and by a sizeable margin. Is there a shittier hockey town that’s been blessed with more amazing talent than Pittsburgh? The Penguins have had Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr and now Sidney Crosby. Evgeni Malkin looks like he’s going to be wicked good too. If the NHL lets this collection of players move to Kansas City or some such nonsense, they deserve to go down the toilet. They should move the Islanders to Kansas and send Pittsburgh to Long Island.
Some interesting things with the Oilers in there as well. The Raffi/Stoll/Pisani line looks to me like they’re going to stick together as a trio and they’re performing at a pretty solid level. They’re all over the +1.0 ESGD/60 barrier, which is a pretty respectable place to be at, especially because I think they’ve seen some tougher competition of late. Pisani’s scoring is down slightly and Stoll is up slightly - it pretty much washes out. Raffi Torres, on the other hand, is putting up ridiculous numbers at ES - he’s a shade under 3.0 ESP/60 as of this stats update and I suspect he’s up over 3.0 ESP/60 now. Heady stuff - that’s an elite level of ES point production, if he were to put it up over the course of an entire season. He’s probably the Oiler most due for a ridiculous slump though. The play of this line for the past month has a been a huge bright spot for the Oilers and something that bodes well going forward - Torres and Stoll were two wildcards going into this year and their development between now and the playoffs is going to have a huge impact on whether Edmonton has the guns to make a run at repeating last year.
JF Jacques and MA Pouliot don’t really have enough minutes to make it worth commenting on them but I note that Jacques has played a hair under 90 minutes of ES time, the Oilers have scored no goals with him on the ice and they’ve allowed 7. Anyone know when Ethan Moreau is coming back? Soon? Please? Please. It’s time for some of these young guys (Pouliot is no hot shit either) to get squeezed out the bottome end of the roster.
Shawn Horcoff is struggling but if Raffi Torres is due to not pick up points for a while, Horcoff is due to start having everything he even looks at go in the net. Horcoff is playing the tough minutes again and his EV- number is down so far this year; he was 3.52 EV-/60 last year and he’s down to 3.02 EV-/60 this year, a chunk of which obviously belongs to Roli. The offence has just gone ridiculously AWOL though - last year with Horcoff on the ice, the Oilers scored 3.41 ESG/60 and Horcoff piled up 2.44 ESP/60. This year, Horcoff is struggling at 0.86 ESP/60 and the Oilers are scoring just 2.30 ESG/60 when he’s on the ice. Even if you think that last year was an anomolous offensive year for him, I still think you’d reasonably expect him to be at least 1.0 ESP/60 above where he is. He’s had at least three ESP waved off, which has to be some sort of record. Notably, last year, he was in on 72% of the Oilers ES goals scored when he was on the ice; this year, he’s at 38%. That’s just an unsustainably low rate. I’m not inclined to chalk this up to Horcoff reverting to form because forwards just don’t have such low percentages of goals that they’re in on. Of the 248 forwards who’ve been on the ice for at least 10 ES goals for this year, only three of them have been in on a lower percentage of the goals than Horcoff. The question is whether this is because he’s not good enough, last year was a fluke or he’s had lousy luck thus far.
If I had to be bet on whether Horcoff is even and back up to at least 1.8 ESP/60 for the rest of the year, I’d be inclined to bet he is. NHL forwards of his calibre just don’t score like he is for an entire season. It’s going to happen for him. Once it starts going in, he should be a plus.
Vic has touched on the Staios/Smid thing but it’s striking everytime I see it. With Smid on the ice, the Oilers are -0.96 ESG/60. With Staios on the ice, they’re -0.13 ESG/60. Considering that Staios has had Smid chained to him for much of the year, it’s difficult to comprehend how Staios manages to be so much better than Smid. One would think that with a reasonable partner, Staios would be solidly in the black.
Reasoner’s getting torched but it’s tough to blame him. He’s had some ridiculous linemates, gets saddled with the kids a fair bit and is currently carrying the forward version of Laco around with him. (Because I’m fair: Joffrey Lupul played a very nice game in Dallas the other night and even created a chance by hitting someone on the forecheck. I still hate him. With Raffi off my shit list, I need a new whipping boy. Lupul is it.) Reasoner’s line is kind of the place that MacT sends guys who don’t have a place at the moment - I’m inclined to go easy on Marty.
Look at Lupul’s ES shot rate: 8.92. Last year it was 13.69. I’m sure that the Oilers coaches are more worried about this than I am but how can he get so many ES shots playing largely with nobodies last year and struggle this year so much despite playing with better players? Is anyone asking this question? I mean, I read Brownlee’s asinine piece wherein he argued that Lupul was struggling because he didn’t have a centre (last year at ES: Todd Marchant, IIRC) but I’m at a bit of a loss. I’m hesitant to buy the “not ready for Edmonton” line but you wonder.
I’ve thrown up the PP numbers as well. Not to give too much credit to Shawn Horcoff but he’s having yet another solid PP season. Considering the variety of guys he’s played with on the PP and the fact that he’s not just feeding off Hemsky or anything - he’s proving yet again that he’s a legitimately good PP forward. For all the bitching and moaning about how he’s not the centre that Edmonton needs, the Oilers use him pretty uniquely - few guys with his track record get used as sparingly on the PP as he does.
Watching TSN tonight, they had a poll on who should be the leader for the Jack Adams at the moment. Guy Carbonneau was their leader. It’s a ridiculous choice - I’m sure that this will irritate Canadiens fans but they’re simply not that good. If Sheldon Souray and Saku Koivu are both true talent 8.0 PPP/60 players, I’m Doug MacLean. They aren’t. Sad for Habs fans, but true.
Two of the Senators big three have got it going on the PP now; it’s a shame that their PK seems to have fallen apart for goaltending related reasons. James Duthie picked them as a darkhorse tonight - it’s a pretty solid call, I think. I know I keep saying this but they’ve been afflicted with horrific slumps from some part of their team all year long. At some point everything is going to click there and the teams for whom it’s clicked so far are going to hit a bump in the road.
The Sedins are ticking along on the PP but Naslund is in the tank. Dennis asked in the comments during an Oilers-Canucks game when Naslund retired. I’ve been watching the Flames final collapse into their proper home tonight and Glenn Healy showed a great clip of Naslund just dragging his ass back up the ice. There’s nothing in the papers about this but you really have to wonder if he’s injured.
Adam Foote still sucks on the PP. He’s still playing big minutes although it looks like his PP TOI is falling since Ken Hitchcock took over.
Oh, and Ed Jovanovski? 2.97 PPP/60. Expensive suck.
Jeopardy! champion Ken Jennings was whining about Wikipedia going in the toilet the other day. Personally, I think it’s better than ever - I was looking for some information on Marty Murray and learned this bit of information:
The topic of Marty Murray once started a bar brawl in Melita, Manitoba. It involved an elderly man whom took offense to a Saskatchewan teen from the nearby town of Carnduff. The fight broke out as the Saskatchewan resident repeatedly trashed talked Marty Murray’s playing style, as well as his future and past hockey experiences. The result of the brawl was the old man getting whupped by the “typical” tough as nails Saskatchewan resident. The group of Saskatchewan residents were all then kicked out of the bar for the night, but felt it was worth it as they seen an 18 year old Sasky defeat a 50+ year old Manitoban.
Sadly, that’s the most interesting piece of information there is relating to Marty Murray.