• Oblivious

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    If it was up to me, the left side of the Oilers would include Taylor Hall, Magnus Pajaarvi and Ryan Smyth (not necessarily in that order) with Ales Hemsky, Jordan Eberle and Linus Omark on the right side. It’s not a particularly big top nine and Steve Tambellini does have a fetish for size. If Jones has a shot at cracking the top nine, it will be in place of Omark, I assume. I’m also pretty sure that I’d rather see those minutes given to Omark, who just seems to me to be a much better hockey player. Injuries will happen and there’s not really a lot that Jones can say, but I suspect he comes back to town as a presumptive fourth liner. Here’s a comparison of the ESTOI for Omark (left) and Jones (right) (corrected because I’m awful at left and right; thanks Adam D.) from March 1 onwards:

    5:53 – 13:06
    9:22 – 11:41
    14:22 – 14:26
    12:54 – 12:08
    13:12 – 12:34
    11:32 – 18:14
    12:03 – 11:41
    7:03 – 11:40 (Omark played more than 8 minutes on the PP)
    18:13 – 16:04
    16:29 – 16:55
    15:01 – 10:57
    16:34 – 17:09
    13:44 – 10:48
    13:03 – 10:40
    18:06 – 14:55
    13:54 – 12:50
    18:40 – 14:23
    14:06 – 11:44
    18:44 – 15:28

    It sure looks to me like one of these guys was making some gains on the other guy in the coach’s estimation. The Oilers top nine was hardly physical last year and Renney still seems to have a revealed preference for Omark over Jones by the end of the year. If I was a betting man, I’d bet on Jones starting the season on the fourth line. More time to work on his flow, I guess.

    * * *

    While Jones is a perfectly cromulent fourth liner by recent Oiler standards (he can skate forwards and backwards, isn’t one of the most useless players in NHL history and isn’t known as “Huggy Bear”), he’s nothing particularly special. Raffi Torres, to pick but one example, is twice the player that Jones is. With what we know now, in terms of Smyth having requested a return to the Oilers at the end of the Kings season and Lombardi presumably talking to Tambellini fairly shortly thereafter, the decision to sign Jones to a two year deal at the end of May at $1.5MM per season seems sort of bizarre. $1.5MM per season is an awful lot of money for a player who doesn’t project as part of your top nine.

    Steve Tambellini is getting an awful lot of praise for the Smyth deal and it’s true that he made the team better and got rid of a bad contract. It’s worth noting that he’s the guy who gave out the bad contract though and that he has a variety of bad contracts that he’s signed that can be made available to teams looking for one. Concussion prone small forwards at $1.85MM? Sure, got one of those. Broken down goaltenders with legal issues at $3.75MM who can’t be removed from the cap? Check aisle two. Defencemen coming off a tragic series of events? Sure, we can do one at $1.8MM. Guys with Twitter accounts and nice flow? We just got one in. Centres that we bought because we were blinded by their Cup rings? Sorry sold out, although check back in November – we’ll see what we can find this summer.

    Tambellini’s had the reins since the end of the 2008-09 and, as far as I can tell, the only really useful player he’s acquired outside of the draft, which he doesn’t really run, has been Ryan Whitney, who’s got serious health issues and is a question mark for the future. Other than that, it’s a string of stupid contracts, small and big. I noticed a bunch of the media guys lining up to praise him for the way he ground Lombardi on this; that’s all fine and well but like dumping Staios for a third, he took advantage of a guy in a bad spot. You can’t make a living as an NHL GM if that’s your only skill; it just doesn’t happen often enough.

    * * *

    With all of that said, there’s going to be lots of opportunity to worry about Tambellini in the next few years as he screws up all sorts of other things. This is a really good day for the Oilers, who’ve acquired a really good player who is a piece of the soul of the franchise. I spent some time looking the other night at where Smyth sits in terms of various franchise records. The most impressive thing (to me anyway), is that he’s only nine goals behind Glenn Anderson for the franchise record for power play goals; he should break that late this year or early in 2012-13 (assuming that one of the things that Tambellini screws up isn’t letting Smyth go after one year). If he plays all 82 games this year, he’ll move into second all-time in games played for the Oilers. He starts the season 267 games behind Kevin Lowe for the franchise lead – four years at 67 games per season will get him there. It’s tough to see him moving up the all-time goals chart – he sits fifth, 127 goals behind Messier – but it’s not unreasonable to think he’ll ultimately end up in 7th for assists, with an outside shot at sixth. Fifth all-time in points is reachable too – he’s currently in seventh, 80 points back of Paul Coffey. When all is said and done, Smyth could easily retire as the most significant non-dynasty Oiler in history. If he helps move the next generation forward, his place in Oilers history will only be more significant.

    More importantly from the position of having a watchable hockey team next year, there’s only one really big hole in the top nine now – they could use another centre for next season to go with Gagner and Horcoff. I’ve had a quick look at the UFA list and there doesn’t seem to be a ton there, so Cogliano will likely get another chance. As we look to next season though, you start to have the feeling that the Oilers are starting to assemble a pretty credible corps of forwards for the next few years. If Hemsky can be kept around (and in one piece) and Horcoff and Smyth kept healthy, a bit of development from the young guys and the forwards are suddenly pretty good.

    Now to just find some defencemen and ensure that Khabby doesn’t start 60 games…

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    60 Responses to Oblivious

    1. Woodguy
      June 26, 2011 at

      “Now to just find some defencemen and ensure that Khabby doesn’t start 60 games…”

      Aye, there’s the rub.

    2. Coach Pb
      June 26, 2011 at

      “they could use another centre for next season to go with Gagner and Horcoff. I’ve had a quick look at the UFA list and there doesn’t seem to be a ton there,”

      Fiddler, Goc, and Belanger, in that order, make a ton of sense for that spot between Omark and Paajarvi.

    3. Vic Ferrari
      June 26, 2011 at

      From the coincidence file; I used the word ‘cromulent’ earlier today.

      And to the people who say “That’s not a real word!”, I say “Perhaps not, but it’s impactful!”

    4. PDO
      June 26, 2011 at

      Is:

      Hall – Horcoff – Eberle
      Smyth – Gagner – Hemsky
      Paajarvi – Lander – Omark
      Eager – Nichols – Jones

      Whitney – Petry
      Colin White – Gilbert
      Peckham – Smid
      Vandermeer

      Vokoun
      DD

      … a team that breaks even in goal differential?

      Quick math would have me figuring Vokoun to Khabibulin takes care of about 50 of our -75.

      Does the rest take care of the remaining 25?

    5. PDO
      June 26, 2011 at

      … and of course we have score effects probably working in there as well.

      That said, you’d be adding a quality PK guy in Nichols, a guy who can presumably PK in Lander.

      Toss in Horcoff, Smyth, Eberle and Paajarvi to round it out and the PK might finally become decent again, and that would also put a huge dent in that GA number.

    6. Adam D
      June 26, 2011 at

      Assuming you were correct in labeling Omark as right and Jones as left, it looks like Jones was growing on Renney, not Omark.

    7. Coach Pb
      June 26, 2011 at

      “Paajarvi – Lander – Omark”

      That line is going to be beaten badly.

    8. PDO
      June 26, 2011 at

      Coach:

      On the road… probably.

      At home? Not so much.

    9. Vic Ferrari
      June 26, 2011 at

      Adam D:

      Yeah, I was working on the assumption that he had the columns reversed.

    10. Tyler Dellow
      June 26, 2011 at

      Thanks Adam – fixed.

    11. oilersfanincalgary
      June 26, 2011 at

      For one day can’t you give the anti-Tambellini stuff a rest? I’m in a good because Smyth is returning to the Oilers. I was looking to read more coverage but am truly sorry that I took the time to read your blog. You really do come across as a pretty bitter and twisted fellow. Obviously the owners of all of the NHL franchises have overlooked your brilliance, because with your ability to pinpoint the incompetence of others I can’t believe you’re not running at least one NHL franchise.

    12. Tyler Dellow
      June 26, 2011 at

      You might want to stick to the MSM oilersfanincalgary. You’ll find that they write happy stories, positive stories that praise the management of the worst team in the NHL over the five years, all the time. That seems to be more your speed.

    13. Dennis
      June 26, 2011 at

      I signed up on Twitter on Friday because I wanted constant updates on the 94 situation.

      Ryan Jones is one of the people I`m following.

      I`m trying to decide what kind of person I`m gonna be on Twitter; ie am I gonna be myself;)

      Because when I saw that tweet from Jones the first thing that popped into my head was,:you should tweet him to ask him if he realizes this makes him the Decided 4th liner and that the PK is his best way to make an impact.

    14. oilersfanincalgary
      June 26, 2011 at

      It’s not that I have a problem straying from the MSM, it’s that your blog seems to have a fairly excessive amount of pomposity relative to all of the other Oilers blogs. For instance, I can’t believe that Tambellini could not have foreseen that Brule would be so concussion prone before offering him that $1.85 million contract, a contract that many others in the blogosphere thought was reasonable at the time. I guess he should have checked with you first or consulted a physic. Many other commentators today have seen fit to give credit where credit is due as far as Tambellini is concerned and have refrained from throwing in all the negative crap (look at David Staples blog, the Lowetide blog etc.) To the same degree that you think I should stick with the MSM, you should try to gain a degree of objectivity in your analysis.

    15. Tyler Dellow
      June 26, 2011 at

      I guess he should have checked with you first or consulted a physic.

      http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3448

      Highlights:

      Brule has all of the red flags that were there for Shawn Horcoff and Robert Nilsson in terms of their offence when they signed their deals. He was in on 85% of the goals scored with him on the ice at even strength this year. The on-ice shooting percentage was high. He shot 14.5% at ES. All of the things that we’ve learned are indicators of outlier seasons are there. I would happily bet the under if someone wanted to bet on him repeating his rates of last year.

      If that’s the market price for these guys though, you really have to wonder how much, if any, surplus value the teams are collecting from the deals. I’m not sure what the end game is for the Oilers and Brule here that doesn’t involve him getting paid north of $2MM. Brule is going to be hardpressed to crack the Oilers top six at any point when they’re competitive, with Horcoff, Gagner, Penner, Hemsky, Hall, MPS and Eberle all probably being mentally slotted in front of him. When this team is able to compete, he’s probably a third liner at best, and one with no track record of being able to handle the competition.

      In short, he’s a guy who I’m not sure it makes sense for the Oilers to keep around. My thinking is that his value is unlikely to be higher than it is right now – Brule might seem attractive to a team that thinks its going places and likes his ES scoring from last year. If you’ve got a bad bet who is about to get expensive, unlikely to repeat his results and doesn’t seem like a fit for the top six moving forward, it seems to me like the time to sell. Sooooo, given that this is the Oilers…does three years and $7.0MM sound about right? Gotta spend those Nilsson savings on someone.

      First comment on that post:

      And an injury concern to boot.

      Other comments:

      Been sayin’ “sell high” for a while now

      It better be one year only. If it is one year, I don’t care if it is $2 million. If last year was an outlier, no harm done.

      You only offer long deals to players you are absolutely certain are critical to your future.

      Both those guys write their own blogs. Brule took a little less than I would have guessed but my major issues with him certainly came to pass in terms of not being a useful player, even when he was healthy. Don’t tell me that this is ex post facto stuff – it’s absolutely not.

    16. Tyler Dellow
      June 26, 2011 at

      And seriously, if the blog’s too pompous for you, don’t read it. I couldn’t care less whether anyone reads it or not. I care about offering sensible thoughts on the Oilers and what they’re up to. I’ll put my track record in that regard against anyone’s.

    17. oilersfanincalgary
      June 26, 2011 at

      Well you’ve certainly convinced me. Thanks for the idea about not reading this anymore, enjoy yourself.

    18. PDO
      June 26, 2011 at

      Ty:

      Would appreciate a response to proposed roster. Not because it’s one I would submit as an Oiler GM, but because it’s one I think we have a legitimate chance of seeing.

    19. Coach Pb
      June 26, 2011 at

      In an age and time when everything a person writes is accessible through a single search engine in just under .005 seconds, why do people continue to act as if prior knowledge about a situation doesn’t exist? Multiple people said don’t sign a goalie to a huge deal. Tambellini signs Khabibulin a week later. Multiple people raised all kinds of red flags on Brule, Tambellini signs Brule for way too much.

      I can find 6 articles in under 30 seconds on the danger of signing Brule to a big contract, with the first being published in December…during his breakout year.

    20. DaHoosman
      June 27, 2011 at

      What I don’t understand is why everyone is seemingly forgetting that Tambo almost blew this deal when it was reported that Calgary had a deal with Lombardi and the only reason it didn’t go through was that Smyth refused to waive his no trade clause to go to the Flames.

      That’s some pretty fine GMing right there: complete indecisiveness that almost blows up in your face, only to be saved in the end.

      Sometimes you can fall as backwards into a lucky situation, and this is what the Ryan Smyth trade feels like to me. I’m thrilled he’s back, for all the reasons Tyler and Lowetide listed today. There’s no reason to rehash them now.

      Tomorrow, as Steve Tambellini gets ready for work, he’ll likely find a $100 in his coat pocket, a diamond in his loafers and buy a winning lottery ticket. As fans, with our luck, it’ll be the Oilers’ lottery that he wins.

    21. FastOil
      June 27, 2011 at

      PDO:
      Aside from the stats analysis that looks like a pretty decent line up. I have a feeling that decent doesn’t have a place in the “plan” quite yet.

      It bugs me that Tambellini hangs the rookies out to dry without any type of legitimate protection.

      Lowe should know better, Sather always had an effective deterrent on board. With the make up of the team and who they have drafted, the 4th line and bottom pairing really needs to be tough.

      There is no room for Jones and all that he doesn’t bring. Find five experienced players decent enough to take regular shifts but not good enough to disrupt the plan, that aren’t nice people on the ice and are vengeful, and let the youth enjoy these first few years a little more (and me too).

    22. RiversQ
      June 27, 2011 at

      Flow? What the fuck does that mean? This means I’m old, right?

      I’ll be honest, I just don’t like Ryan Jones. The fact that his numbers are as horrible as my opinion of him just makes me smile a little. I’m petty that way. And old. And clearly with not much going on either.

      As far as the lineup goes, I’m all about function over form, but it would be nice if the Oilers could find a larger centre for the 3rd most ES minutes. They may have to trade for one.

    23. June 27, 2011 at

      I can’t believe Tambo is getting ANY credit for the Smyth deal. Without any inner knowledge of the circumstances, it seems reasonable to assume
      a) Smyth said he wants to move back to Edm ONLY.
      b) Lombardi decided that it was in his best interest to create a bit of a market for Smyth to get more value, cites Flames as interested
      c) all Tambo has to say is “OK”, choose a spare player and the deal is done
      d) Tambo needs two chances to complete step c

      Anyway, against all odds, the team is improved, and if vet 3c and 4/5 are signed, this team is as close to cromulent as its been in a LONG time.

    24. June 27, 2011 at

      I meant to say “if a vet 3c and 4/5 D are signed,…”

    25. Hambone
      June 27, 2011 at

      FWIW Tyler, I am glad that you pass Steve Tambellini’s performance under a critical lens, because there are very few in the MSM willing to do that.

      oilersfanincalgary’s tirade is typical of the Oilers management boosters: faith, defined as belief that is not supported by evidence. Those more skeptical of Tambellini and Lowe tend to have evidence on their side.

    26. Mike W
      June 27, 2011 at

      One of the great things about following hockey is the simplicity in what is defined as success: wins and losses. Three full seasons and the Oilers are sucking dirt — Tambellini’s record speaks for itself.

    27. dawgbone
      June 27, 2011 at

      Flow? What the fuck does that mean?

      It’s how impressive your hair looks as it flows from under your helmet, generally while skating/running.

      And yes, I’m serious.

    28. dawgbone
      June 27, 2011 at

      As pissed as I was that it took so long to get the deal done, I’m not blaming Tambo for that.

      As much as it would have pissed me off if Smyth did go to Calgary for a pick, the Flames couldn’t make that trade yet because of cap reasons.

      I think Lombardi tried to drum up some market value and the Oilers gave them the lowest pick they could as well as a $850K 13th forward. Good trade all around and Tambo handled it well.

      Yeah, low hanging fruit and all. Now it’s time to make the real decisions.

    29. Tyler Dellow
      June 27, 2011 at

      Flow? What the fuck does that mean? This means I’m old, right?

      I’ll be honest, I just don’t like Ryan Jones. The fact that his numbers are as horrible as my opinion of him just makes me smile a little. I’m petty that way. And old. And clearly with not much going on either.

      I’m with you on the “flow” thing Riv. It’s inane. Kids etc. With Penner gone, personality wise, I’m not sure there’s a one under 30 who I like.

      AND THOSE KIDS ARE BACK ON MY LAWN. *shuffles off to get gun*

    30. PPP
      June 27, 2011 at

      As a counterbalance to the MSM’s biggest fan, I demand MORE pomposity, MORE bashing of Tambellini, and MORE ridiculing of seemingly avoidable mistakes.

      Or I’ll publicly stop reading the site.

    31. June 27, 2011 at

      Before anyone gets too hot and bothered over Oilers management:

      “Since Stortini didn’t get a recall from Oklahoma City after clearing waivers in February, there’s a good chance they’ll let him walk away. Jacques is on the bubble.”

      The bubble. Statistically one of the worst NHL players in history, and he’s on “the bubble” in Edmonton. Nuff said.

      BTW, Clare Drake better get in the HHOF. It’s shameful he’s not in there already.

    32. June 27, 2011 at

      I think trying to get rid of Brule in a Smyth trade was a great idea by Tambellini and I certainly don’t blame him holding up proceedings for a couple days over it. It was tense at the time, of course, but had Tambellini pulled it off it would have made the trade even more of a win than it already is. A pity Lombardi cottoned on to what a shitshow Brule’s body is right now.

      As it is, of course, he did pretty well.

    33. Vic Ferrari
      June 27, 2011 at

      On the ‘grumpy old man’ theme.

      I like Eberle and Brule, personalty-wise. From the little I’ve heard from them and about them. I appreciate Omark’s frankness as well, though I would appreciate it less if I were his agent.

      Don’t have an opinion on most of them. A few of the young guys, especially Cogliano and Gagner, seemed to be carrying a real sense of entitlement a couple of years back. I would imagine age, experience, and a few kicks in the nuts have tempered that, though I don’t know.

      Of course we’d probably love them all if the Oilers were winning.

      I have a new hockey stat called VAAHB (Value as a human being). Cutting edge stuff.

      For forwards it’s simply shooting% in the current season times 70.

      For D is hits/game * on-ice save% squared. All for the current season.

    34. Tyler Dellow
      June 27, 2011 at

      I should say that I like Omark personality wise: the lad’s got some jam.

    35. Dennis
      June 27, 2011 at

      Wow, I think Cam just had a breakthrough right here online;)

      I still like the music and films that the “kids” like but their language evades me.

    36. June 27, 2011 at

      There’s a ton of Oilers on Twitter. Hall, Omark, Whitney, Jones, Vandermeer, Petry, Peckham. Considering how paranoid and dickish the organization is about media and public relations, I’m surprised. And pleased. Whitney’s is the best by a mile. I’ve come full circle on the guy based on his tweets alone.

      Other fun part: JJ Hebert is on Twitter. He’s contributed one tweet, and doesn’t follow a single bloger. Now that’s the JJ Hebert we’ve all come to know and love. Then again, when you have Tencer tweeting for you, why would you need to do the heavy lifting? You can just make sure you stay close to the GM and President so that you’re on TV lots.

    37. freeze
      June 27, 2011 at

      Whitney’s personality is a gem on Twitter or otherwise. Too bad it doesn’t keep him healthy and win hockey games.
      Nice to have him aboard tho.

    38. June 27, 2011 at

      Ah, I’m waxing nostalgic but this is the best.

      Come for the article, stay for the abuse. Beautiful.

      Actually Hall comes across pretty well on Twitter too. Good sense of humour, not too full of himself.

      You know who else seems like a decent guy? Our old friend Lupul. Crazy.

      Wait until you’re on the other side of forty Cam. I haven’t a fucking clue. Music, movies, TV. For the most part I just think its the most appalling shit. And, like my old man before me, I am absolutely right.

      I’d send them all off to the military for three or four years. The Finns have it right. When they won the WC there was a big party in Helsinki. Worst thing that happened was some dude dropping trou.

      They should have fucking dropped a bomb on Vancouver. Those stupid assholes.

    39. bill needle
      June 27, 2011 at

      Keep putting reason to rage, Tyler.
      The only correct decisions the Oilers have made in the last decade or so were the absolutely obvious ones. Does society give credit to people for getting up in the morning and drawing their first breath?

    40. June 27, 2011 at

      The worst part of living in Vancouver is that even people who like me think my death would be worth it if the whole city just exploded. A lot like Toronto, I suppose.

    41. oilersfanincalgary
      June 27, 2011 at

      I know I said I wouldn’t read anymore, but this banter is kind of fun. Somebody mentioned evidence that is available with a simple internet search, well here are some other points of view:

      “Brule tallied 17 goals and 20 assists last year and most think his $1.85 million/season is a fair contract. Cogliano had a career-low ten goals and 28 points last year and now many think he is automatically less of a player than Brule.” (Oilersnation, July 28, 2010)

      “Injuries: At just 23 years of age, Brule’s had a lot of them. Broken leg, broken collarbone, and a sprained ankle that cost him the tail end of the 2009-10 season. It may be that he’s just had bad luck early on, but those injuries have already cost him a lot and with the style he plays it wouldn’t surprise me if injuries continued to shape his NHL career.” (Oilersnation, May 13, 2010).

      When I read this list of injuries I don’t seen any mention of a concussion. Obviously I don’t spend as much time doing advanced stats searches and such as some of you, but if you can show me that Brule had suffered a concussion before he signed the $1.85 million contract I will humbly apologize for saying that it was off base to suggest that Tambellin should have foreseen that he was “concussion prone” Otherwise, I interpret that phrase to mean someone who is prone to concussions, which usually means he’s had one before.

      Finally, just because someone doesn’t think everything in the world that Tambellini does or does not do is evidence of fundamental idiocy, doesn’t mean he’s a shill for Oilers management.

      There’s a woman in the U.S. who fancies herself a potential President who also likes to go on and on against the MSM. I think her name is Palin or something. I don’t know that being a contrarian to views of MSM is necessarily a badge of honour.

    42. Tyler Dellow
      June 27, 2011 at

      Brule is arguably concussion prone now. He wasn’t when Tambo signed the deal. Of course, there are some different lines of thinking as to what his actual problem is. Look at Coppernblue for more.

      I note that Willis (also known as “the smart guy at OilersNation”) identified all the same red flags that I identified with respect to Brule. If Jason Gregor thinks something’s a good idea…well, it’s not something from which you should draw a lot of comfort. I think Gregor’s a basically decent guy, so I’ve tried to stop bagging on him so much but he’s a lousy analyst. Same goes for Brownlee.

      Finally, just because someone doesn’t think everything in the world that Tambellini does or does not do is evidence of fundamental idiocy, doesn’t mean he’s a shill for Oilers management.

      There’s a woman in the U.S. who fancies herself a potential President who also likes to go on and on against the MSM. I think her name is Palin or something. I don’t know that being a contrarian to views of MSM is necessarily a badge of honour.

      I didn’t say that this move is evidence that Tambo’s a shitty GM. He IS a shitty GM though. A decapitated monkey with a still flickering brain stem could have recognized that bringing Smyth back was a good idea. I’m not gonna praise the guy because he doesn’t poop his pants at press conferences.

      As for the Palin business, well, Calgary’s full of assholes. Doesn’t mean everyone from there’s an asshole. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren’t. The MSM sucks when it comes to the Oilers – most of them are on the Oilers dole one way or the other.

    43. Vic Ferrari
      June 27, 2011 at

      Come for the article, stay for the abuse. Beautiful.

      I’m feeling the nostalgia too, Pat. Back in the day, Covered in Oil somehow became the Oilogosphere’s low point drain for loony toon commenters. But this is working for me.

      I’m even liking Tyler’s English turns of phrase, “The lad’s got some jam” … honestly, who says that in our culture.

    44. Tyler Dellow
      June 27, 2011 at

      I’m even liking Tyler’s English turns of phrase, “The lad’s got some jam” … honestly, who says that in our culture.

      I blame the Oilers for this. It’s been more fun following Blackpool than Edmonton and I’m picking up the language. Judging by their big message board, I’ll be illiterate in a matter of months if the Oilers don’t get interesting.

    45. Vic Ferrari
      June 27, 2011 at

      Are you going to keep following Blackpool, even now they’ve been relegated?

      I read your holiday journal posts a while back. Great stuff, you don’t find that sort of information in Fodor’s guide. Should’ve mentioned Stanley Matthews, though, his name is synonymous with Blackpool FC.

    46. Tyler Dellow
      June 27, 2011 at

      Seasider for life.

      I’m already lining up games for next year. I think we’re gonna go sailing in September in the Med. I don’t know shit about sailing – my girlfriend checks out the boat – so my plan is stop in England for a few hours and catch Blackpool-Ipswich on Sept. 10 and then we’re gonna head down to Pompey on the way back and catch the next one.

      If you time it right, you can do four games in like four days off work over there, Easter and such.

    47. June 27, 2011 at

      You want to talk about the MSM?

      Jesus, for me the low point was Friday night when Duhatschek tweeted that he couldn’t believe the Oilers gave up Brule for Smyth. He could not believe it.

      I responded pretty quickly that Brule is a pretty bad hockey player (I’m sure I’m not the only one) and a few minutes later he said something like ‘Oh Smyth had 47 points in 82 games and Brule had 9 points in 41 games so maybe not so bad after all’

      I like Duhatschek a lot, I really do. I think he writes well and he seems like a thoughtful and reasonable guy. But when you work out of Alberta you should know that getting rid of Brule would be a good thing. It smacks of Maguire talking about Hemsky being a centre at the deadline and MacT staring at him in disbelief.

      This is your job. You had better know what you are talking about.

    48. The Other John
      June 28, 2011 at

      Edmonton’s sports media is in a class of it’s own. We have those that shill for a new arena and are not required to do independent research, ever. We have the old time guys who are just waiting for the pension to start kicking in. We have the young guys who try to out do each other as company pitchmen. Caller singing Nashville praises, Millhouse tells him that “Oiler fans would never be satisfied with their record of making playoffs for most of 1st decade of new century. What have they ever won”, gotta love the chutzpah!!

      We will see the Ryan Jones of the hockey world get signed this week for $850k on 1 year contract. Course Oil do not have to pay JDD $1m to not play in AHL this year might as well piss it away somewhere

    49. June 28, 2011 at

      What I don’t understand is why everyone is seemingly forgetting that Tambo almost blew this deal when it was reported that Calgary had a deal with Lombardi and the only reason it didn’t go through was that Smyth refused to waive his no trade clause to go to the Flames.

      That’s some pretty fine GMing right there: complete indecisiveness that almost blows up in your face, only to be saved in the end.

      Not to be the apologist in the room, but could it not be said that he counted on that? That he was willing to risk offering the less-appealing package because he was reasonably certain the player had such a strong preference for his team that Lombardi really didn’t have a choice? Sure, it’s rather “surprising” that he didn’t realize Creme Brulee was still suffering from mush-brain (unless he was indeed trying to snooker Lombardi, in which case, points for effort), but I can’t really fault him for the whole Flames trade business. Lombardi tried to force a bidding war and Smyth wouldn’t co-operate, which I think we all expected.

      And yes, making the easy, competent move is a step up after some of the shit deals he’s made the last three years.

      As a counterbalance to the MSM’s biggest fan, I demand MORE pomposity, MORE bashing of Tambellini, and MORE ridiculing of seemingly avoidable mistakes.

      Or I’ll publicly stop reading the site.

      I will sign this petition. More anger! More mockery! More screencapped Excel spreadsheets!

      BTW, Clare Drake better get in the HHOF. It’s shameful he’s not in there already.

      Him and Bill Hunter both.

      Wait until you’re on the other side of forty Cam. I haven’t a fucking clue. Music, movies, TV. For the most part I just think its the most appalling shit. And, like my old man before me, I am absolutely right.

      I’ll be 25 in September. It’s not an age thing, put it that way.

    50. freeze
      June 28, 2011 at

      I am so happy to learn that McGuire is heading stateside for the season. Too bad TSN doesn’t air more Oil games. Perhaps once (if) they start winning.
      Ferraro is generally a good analyst and I’m happy if he is slated in.

      What are the opinions around here on having the analyst in-between the benches for games?
      I’ve found that the quality of analysis suffers because they can’t watch the play unfold from that location. I’d prefer if it was just a sideline reporter so we can still hear about the chirping back and forth between the benches.

    51. Hambone
      June 28, 2011 at

      Think about this statement: ‘there’s more to building a winning hockey team than losing more than all the other teams’.

      It sounds absurd, but I think to the likes of Lowe and Tambellini it would come as news.

    52. Vic Ferrari
      June 28, 2011 at

      Dennis:

      Following you advice I bought the first two seasons of ‘Breaking bad’. Mad stuff, but impossible to stop watching.

      I keep wanting to like Walt, waiting for him to give me reasons, but he’s an ass. I still root for him, against all odds, but I don’t know why. Skyler is just inscrutable (nobody walks away from a bag full of money) and Jesse is the same dickhead we all knew in high school.

      At least Saul and Mike are true to themselves. Complete assholes both, but the way they are so comfortable within their own skin … can’t help but like them. I like Herb for the same reasons, even though his facade has been cracking apart.

      Bryan Cranston is brilliant, though. A character unlike any other I’ve seen in television or film. I hope he has a long career.

    53. Vic Ferrari
      June 28, 2011 at

      To add, for any Breaking Bad fans:

      I season 3 worth watching?

    54. Pete.
      June 28, 2011 at

      ^ I’ve watched most of season 3, and yeah, it’s worth watching. There are a couple really great shots in episode 7. Very tense shit.

      Racking my brain trying to think of something to say about hockey. Ah, fuck it.

    55. Passive Voice
      June 28, 2011 at

      Vic, I don’t mean to badger you, but were you able to update the playershot scripts for this year? Thanks.

    56. Vic Ferrari
      June 28, 2011 at
    57. Passive Voice
      June 29, 2011 at

      That’s awesome. Is it possible to append the old “&shawn=xx” thing?

    58. Pleasure Motors
      June 29, 2011 at

      It’s a shame we stopped, because “the Oilogosphere’s low point drain” would make a great banner.

    59. Vic Ferrari
      June 29, 2011 at

      Come on, Pleasure Motors, that wasn’t a shot against Covered in Oil. You can’t deny that the CinO comments section drew in the mad hatters, for reasons unknown.

      Before you all quit caring, you folks were like the early Kinks, before and including ‘State of Confusion’.

    60. Dennis
      June 29, 2011 at

      Vic: Of course it’s worth watching!!!

      You’re not supposed to like Walter, but you root for him as a guy who’s embraced what he might be good at and likes to tread on the darkside.

      Also, try Justified; it’s another fine show. Starting in the middle of the first season it just takes off and is an excellent serial.

      Pat: I have been saying for years – as Ty – that Eric D isn’t what he’s made out to be.

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