• Scoring chances for/against: Mar 20th: Edm/Chi

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    Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 21068

    Team Period Time Note Oilers Opponent  
    EDM 1 16:48 PP Goal 27 27 35 37 44 83 89 2 7 26 36 39 5v4
    EDM 1 15:26 19 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 16 24 25 36 39 5v5
    CHI 1 14:12 18 24 27 35 44 51 19 22 25 39 51 88 5v5
    CHI 1 12:19 Goal 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    EDM 1 10:31 18 18 27 35 37 51 77 2 37 39 46 51 55 5v5
    EDM 1 9:53 Goal 13 5 13 34 35 43 85 2 8 16 32 36 39 5v5
    CHI 1 8:14 12 21 35 37 77 89 25 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 1 8:04 12 21 35 37 77 89 19 25 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 1 7:08 12 21 35 37 77 89 2 22 25 39 46 88 5v5
    CHI 1 6:51 12 19 27 35 37 77 2 25 37 39 46 55 5v5
    CHI 1 4:50 PP 10 18 24 35 44 7 24 32 33 39 51 4v5
    CHI 1 4:48 PP 10 18 24 35 44 7 24 32 33 39 51 4v5
    CHI 1 4:25 5 12 19 21 24 35 4 19 22 39 51 88 5v5
    EDM 1 2:36 10 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 7 24 33 36 39 5v5
    CHI 1 1:28 Goal 5 13 34 35 43 85 4 37 39 46 51 55 5v5
    EDM 2 19:34 44 10 19 24 35 44 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    CHI 2 17:48 5 12 21 35 43 89 8 25 26 32 33 39 5v5
    EDM 2 16:58 44 18 24 27 35 44 51 7 8 37 39 46 55 5v5
    CHI 2 16:49 10 19 24 35 44 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    CHI 2 16:17 10 19 24 35 44 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    CHI 2 15:02 5 12 21 35 77 89 4 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 2 14:33 13 24 34 35 44 85 8 19 22 25 39 88 5v5
    EDM 2 13:57 Goal 18 18 27 35 37 51 77 2 7 37 39 46 55 5v5
    EDM 2 12:25 43 5 12 21 35 43 89 4 16 24 36 39 51 5v5
    CHI 2 12:09 PP 10 18 24 35 44 19 22 25 36 39 88 4v5
    CHI 2 10:26 PP 10 18 35 37 77 7 24 32 33 39 51 4v5
    EDM 2 9:27 51 18 24 27 35 44 51 4 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 2 8:02 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    EDM 2 5:10 18 18 27 35 37 51 77 8 25 36 37 39 55 5v5
    CHI 2 4:31 18 27 35 37 51 77 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    CHI 2 2:32 5 13 21 35 77 24 25 36 39 51 4v4
    CHI 2 2:29 Goal 5 13 21 35 77 24 25 36 39 51 4v4
    EDM 2 1:41 Goal 89 12 35 44 77 83 89 4 8 26 36 39 5v4
    EDM 2 1:14 10 10 19 24 35 37 83 4 8 19 26 36 39 5v5
    CHI 2 0:44 10 19 24 35 37 83 4 8 19 26 36 39 5v5
    CHI 3 19:41 10 19 24 35 44 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    CHI 3 18:30 PP 24 34 35 44 51 19 25 33 39 51 88 4v5
    EDM 3 16:15 21 12 21 35 37 77 89 8 16 25 26 36 39 5v5
    EDM 3 14:24 51 13 18 27 35 37 77 2 19 22 25 39 88 5v5
    CHI 3 12:45 12 21 24 35 44 89 2 7 24 36 39 55 5v5
    CHI 3 12:38 Goal 12 21 24 35 44 89 2 7 24 36 39 55 5v5
    CHI 3 12:11 5 18 27 35 43 51 25 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 3 12:07 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    EDM 3 11:47 83 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    EDM 3 11:31 83 10 19 35 37 77 83 2 7 16 24 36 39 5v5
    EDM 3 9:28 19 19 35 37 51 77 83 4 7 32 33 36 39 5v5
    EDM 3 5:32 13 13 19 34 35 37 77 4 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    EDM 3 5:30 34 13 19 34 35 37 77 4 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    CHI 3 4:17 10 12 35 44 77 83 2 7 19 22 39 88 5v5
    EDM 3 1:45 19 5 10 19 35 43 83 4 16 24 26 39 51 5v5
    CHI 3 1:25 18 24 27 35 44 51 25 26 32 33 39 51 5v5
    EDM 4 3:40 PP 27 21 27 35 44 83 2 25 36 39 4v3
    # Player EV PP SH
    5 L. SMID 17:29 3 7 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    10 S. HORCOFF 17:21 7 8 0:21 0 0 3:08 0 4
    12 R. NILSSON 16:23 2 10 0:19 1 0 0:00 0 0
    13 A. COGLIANO 10:31 4 4 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    18 E. MOREAU 13:38 6 4 0:00 0 0 2:36 0 4
    19 P. O’SULLIVAN 18:46 10 9 0:00 0 0 1:29 0 0
    21 A. KOTALIK 14:50 2 10 1:39 1 0 0:00 0 0
    24 S. STAIOS 23:36 4 10 0:00 0 0 4:08 0 4
    27 D. PENNER 12:58 6 5 2:23 2 0 0:00 0 0
    34 F. PISANI 10:26 3 2 0:00 0 0 2:32 0 1
    35 D. ROLOSON 55:52 19 25 2:42 3 0 6:26 0 5
    37 D. GREBESHKOV 16:43 13 9 0:30 1 0 1:22 0 1
    43 J. STRUDWICK 11:25 3 3 0:00 0 0 0:34 0 0
    44 S. SOURAY 21:44 3 9 2:42 3 0 4:30 0 4
    51 K. BRODZIAK 13:00 6 4 0:00 0 0 1:55 0 1
    77 T. GILBERT 20:40 12 12 0:40 1 0 2:18 0 1
    83 A. HEMSKY 14:46 8 8 2:14 3 0 0:53 0 0
    85 L. REDDOX 5:40 1 2 0:00 0 0 0:19 0 0
    89 S. GAGNER 15:15 2 7 1:03 2 0 0:00 0 0
    Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
    1 5 10 4 8 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
    2 8 12 7 10 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
    3 8 8 8 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
    4 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Totals 22 30 19 25 3 0 0 0 0 5 0 0

    10 Responses to Scoring chances for/against: Mar 20th: Edm/Chi

    1. March 20, 2009 at

      7 of the remaining 11 games at Rexall; two of those road dates are in Phx and Ana.

      Really no excuses now not to make the playoffs and we can pretty much knock out the Wild with a reg win come this Sunday.

      There was a lot to hate about the first 40 min tonight but I was impressed with the way the Oilers held the fort after Chi tied the game in the third; Oil outchanced them 6-4 for the last ~13 min and that’s noteworthy, IMO.

      The whole deal with playing the Hawks is that the Oilers lack of matchupability was exposed. That wouldn’t be such a problem if we could get a fucking EV goal out of the 10 line but those just aren’t coming right now. The new troika got nailed for the first GA against but at least all three were either up by a chance, tied or down by a chance. So, things were pretty even but they didn’t snipe.

      Meanwhile, 89′s line was getting raked and 13′s line finish EV at 5-on-5 and 13 took another collar at 4-on-4 as well.

      Things wouldn’t be so bad if we had 71 around but tonight we were exposed both up front and on the backend.

      Fortunately, we got one or two PP goals and then we used the new toys in the SO.

    2. March 21, 2009 at

      Thanks for the synopsis Dennis. I missed this one. Looks like it was a fun one to watch.

      They’re in decent shape, another two points up on the pack, which gives them a little more margin for error. I know it goes against the grain of thinking here but I have to think its easier for these kids to play knowing that every loss is not going to drop them out of a playoff spot.

      The thing about this club now is that they are a player short of having a full NHL roster for the first time in a long time. A lot of the players are flawed or kids but they have 12 NHL forwards and 5 NHL defencemen. I liked Cole a lot but adding two forwards at the price of one has made a difference. They have the depth now to roll out four lines. Now these lines aren’t going to be able to handle the tough sledding for the most part but they have a good chance to outplay or at least saw off with most clubs’ second and third lines imo.

      Was Reddox badly hurt? Likely see 78 back in I would think?

      And I will throw this out for the guys who crunch this stuff. What are Pisani’s numbers after the centre experiment and how are they split before and after the injury? Just wondering. And second request, if I may be so bold. ;) What are Staios’ numbers since Lubo went down.

      If anyone can take a crack at that I’d be much appreciative.

    3. March 21, 2009 at

      Too lazy to do up shift charts, but it seems to me that Quenneville was matching up Byfuglien’s line against Gagner’s and poor 89′s line is too small to do much against those guys. Ladd and Havlat wreaked all kinds of havoc too. Gagner et al look a little overmatched against quality oppo.

    4. Ribs
      March 21, 2009 at

      Thanks for the recap Dennis. Sounds like it was an interesting one to watch. Hopefully outchancing opponents toward the end of the game will become a nice trend from here on out.

    5. March 21, 2009 at

      Pat: Scott’s usually pretty good with such requests;) and I imagine 46 will draw back in for 85. Here was another game where the Oilers gave up a goal after 13 got caught on ice with an icing and lost an own zone draw so, sensibly, you’d think 78 would draw back in to take some faceoffs.

      Regarding having four lines to roll, I think we’re a dependable face-off guy plus 71 away from making me feel more comfortable;) Neither will happen this year and maybe we’ll overpay Kotalik come 2010:D

      Then again, maybe now:D

      Mike: The Ladd-Bolland-Havlat line have been doing great work all year.

      Ribs: Yeah, I really liked how they sprung back in the last frame. The first two periods were horrendous but by game’s end, we’re giving as good as we were getting.

    6. March 21, 2009 at

      Thanks again for doing the counting Dennis. I threw up another ten game segment if you’re interested. The Oil don’t exactly look full value for 3-1-6 but they haven’t been really lucky either.

      Since he got back from injury Pisani is +42-50 at EV. I’m not sure exactly what game he was injured but before his injury he was +44-66.

      Staios is +113-144 since Visnovsky went down which compares to +147-191 before Lubo went down so it’s no change in terms of the ratio which is a bit surprising.

    7. Dennis
      March 21, 2009 at

      Scott: 34 was hurt during our first visit to Det.

      I’ll check your site for sure.

      Regarding 24, being a -41 in chances while playing tough four min is certainly better than being -44 while playing against lesser opp.

      But I imagine that you’re getting at the fact he changed roles and the numbers pretty much remain the same; though we haven’t broken down GP in both situations.

    8. March 22, 2009 at

      Thanks guys. Kind of what I suspected with Pisani, it only makes sense that his numbers would be worse when they had him playing out of position.

      By my eye Staios has been holding his own, certainly not what I suspected would happen when he got bumped up.

      I think for all of the derision aimed at Staios (much of it earned) he still has some value and could be moved rather easily.

      I would like to keep him around but for that contract and the fact that he’s pretty lousy on the PK. This team needs help there and if they can find someone to play in the bottom pair for cheap who can PK then I would think they have to replace Staios that way.

    9. March 22, 2009 at

      Sorry Dennis, I meant I wasn’t sure which game MacT ended the Pisani at center experiment. I do have his pre and post injury numbers.

      As for Staios, I don’t know that GP is too relevant since he’s playing more minutes now. Almost guaranteed to be higher event. The ratio between the CF and CA is pretty much bang on. For what it’s worth, he’s only -31 so far as top four. The ratios are .785:1 after the injury to 71 and .770:1 before the injury. I’m surprised he hasn’t been worse to be frank.

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