• Scoring chances for/against: Feb 14th: Edm at LA

    by  • February 15, 2009 • Uncategorized • 12 Comments

    Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 20826

    Team Period Time Note Oilers Opponent  
    EDM 1 15:02 Goal 27 10 27 35 49 77 83 15 17 21 26 27 32 5v5
    LAK 1 14:12 13 18 35 43 49 78 2 3 19 23 28 32 5v5
    LAK 1 13:34 35 43 46 49 51 85 11 12 21 24 27 32 5v5
    LAK 1 13:11 35 43 46 49 51 85 11 12 21 24 27 32 5v5
    LAK 1 12:42 35 43 49 51 83 85 8 11 12 24 27 32 5v5
    EDM 1 6:49 PP Goal 10 10 27 35 44 77 83 6 8 26 28 32 5v4
    EDM 1 6:20 12 5 12 13 35 77 2 3 11 12 32 4v4
    LAK 1 5:48 18 24 35 44 83 6 23 24 27 32 4v4
    EDM 1 4:53 89 5 26 35 77 89 3 5 26 27 32 4v4
    EDM 1 2:09 PK 26 18 24 26 35 44 5 8 11 12 19 32 4v5
    EDM 1 1:28 PK 10 10 35 43 51 77 23 24 26 27 28 32 4v5
    LAK 2 16:52 35 43 46 49 51 85 2 3 19 23 28 32 5v5
    LAK 2 16:27 35 43 46 49 51 85 6 8 11 12 24 32 5v5
    LAK 2 16:19 35 43 46 49 51 85 6 8 11 12 24 32 5v5
    LAK 2 16:01 35 43 46 49 51 85 6 8 11 12 24 32 5v5
    LAK 2 15:07 PP 10 18 24 35 44 23 24 26 27 28 32 4v5
    LAK 2 14:33 PP 10 35 44 77 11 23 26 27 28 32 3v5
    LAK 2 14:01 PP 10 35 44 77 11 23 26 27 28 32 3v5
    LAK 2 13:57 PP 10 35 44 77 11 23 26 27 28 32 3v5
    LAK 2 13:38 PP 10 35 44 77 8 11 23 26 28 32 3v5
    LAK 2 13:31 PP Goal 10 35 44 77 8 11 23 26 28 32 3v5
    LAK 2 12:51 PP 5 18 35 43 51 3 8 12 19 24 32 4v5
    LAK 2 11:15 12 26 35 44 77 89 2 6 11 12 24 32 5v5
    LAK 2 10:42 12 26 35 44 77 89 2 19 23 27 28 32 5v5
    EDM 2 7:57 PP 83 10 27 35 44 77 83 6 21 24 26 32 5v4
    EDM 2 7:15 PP 89 12 13 35 44 77 89 2 3 12 28 32 5v4
    LAK 2 6:45 5 12 13 24 35 89 2 3 11 15 23 32 5v5
    LAK 2 6:06 5 18 24 35 78 89 8 11 23 24 27 32 5v5
    LAK 2 5:27 PP 10 18 24 35 44 3 8 11 12 19 32 4v5
    LAK 2 3:49 PP 10 27 35 43 77 3 8 11 12 19 32 4v5
    EDM 2 1:32 26 12 24 26 35 44 89 2 6 19 23 28 32 5v5
    EDM 2 0:47 83 10 24 27 35 44 83 6 8 19 23 28 32 5v5
    EDM 2 0:01 26 12 24 26 35 44 89 2 3 11 12 24 32 5v5
    EDM 3 19:40 12 12 24 35 44 83 89 6 8 15 17 26 32 5v5
    EDM 3 18:50 89 5 27 35 77 83 89 2 3 11 12 24 32 5v5
    EDM 3 17:22 PP 77 10 27 35 44 77 83 2 3 12 17 32 5v4
    EDM 3 15:45 PP 27 10 27 35 44 77 83 2 6 24 26 32 5v4
    EDM 3 14:50 PP 12 12 13 24 35 44 89 2 3 12 28 32 5v4
    EDM 3 14:36 PP 13 12 13 24 35 44 89 2 3 12 28 32 5v4
    LAK 3 12:51 5 10 18 35 43 46 6 8 11 12 24 32 5v5
    LAK 3 11:57 PK 10 12 27 35 44 77 2 3 12 28 32 5v4
    EDM 3 9:23 26 12 24 26 35 44 89 3 8 15 17 26 32 5v5
    LAK 3 8:45 13 18 35 44 77 78 2 11 12 24 27 32 5v5
    EDM 3 7:41 83 5 10 27 35 77 83 3 8 11 12 24 32 5v5
    LAK 3 7:08 5 12 26 35 77 89 6 19 21 23 28 32 5v5
    LAK 3 4:36 5 12 13 27 35 77 6 19 23 27 28 32 5v5
    LAK 3 2:44 24 27 35 44 83 89 6 11 12 21 24 32 5v5
    EDM 3 2:35 89 12 26 35 43 77 89 6 11 12 21 24 32 5v5
    EDM 3 1:56 13 12 13 35 43 77 78 8 19 23 27 28 32 5v5
    EDM 3 1:50 12 12 13 24 35 44 78 8 19 23 27 28 32 5v5
    LAK 3 1:15 PP 10 24 35 44 51 11 23 24 26 27 28 4v5
    LAK 3 1:11 PP 10 24 35 44 51 11 23 24 26 27 28 4v5
    LAK 3 0:58 PP 10 18 24 35 44 11 23 24 26 27 28 4v5
    LAK 3 0:51 PP 10 18 24 35 44 11 23 24 26 27 28 4v5
    LAK 3 0:25 PP Goal 10 24 35 44 51 11 23 24 26 27 28 4v5
    LAK 4 3:16 10 24 44 51 8 12 26 27 3v3
    LAK 4 3:15 10 24 44 51 8 12 26 27 3v3
    LAK 4 3:14 10 24 44 51 8 12 26 27 3v3
    EDM 4 3:06 51 10 24 44 51 8 12 26 27 3v3
    EDM 4 1:56 13 12 13 24 44 2 3 11 24 3v3
    # Player EV PP SH
    5 L. SMID 17:28 4 5 0:41 0 0 1:17 0 1
    10 S. HORCOFF 14:02 4 4 5:55 4 1 4:01 1 8
    12 R. NILSSON 13:19 9 5 2:49 3 1 0:00 0 0
    13 A. COGLIANO 11:38 4 4 2:09 3 0 0:00 0 0
    18 E. MOREAU 10:38 0 5 0:00 0 0 3:57 1 5
    24 S. STAIOS 20:42 8 7 1:05 2 0 4:39 1 7
    26 E. COLE 13:08 5 3 0:00 0 0 2:11 1 0
    27 D. PENNER 13:12 4 2 5:28 4 1 0:25 0 1
    35 D. ROLOSON 43:59 13 18 7:23 7 1 7:22 2 9
    43 J. STRUDWICK 13:04 2 9 0:00 0 0 2:38 1 2
    44 S. SOURAY 18:27 8 8 7:23 7 1 4:11 1 7
    46 Z. STORTINI 6:00 0 7 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    49 T. PECKHAM 9:41 1 8 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    51 K. BRODZIAK 9:57 1 10 0:00 0 0 3:49 1 4
    77 T. GILBERT 16:22 7 5 6:59 5 1 1:59 1 1
    78 M. POULIOT 7:02 2 3 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
    83 A. HEMSKY 14:24 5 3 5:08 4 0 0:00 0 0
    85 L. REDDOX 7:00 0 7 0:00 0 0 0:21 0 0
    89 S. GAGNER 15:31 7 6 2:31 3 0 0:00 0 0
    Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
    1 6 5 3 5 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
    2 5 17 3 8 2 0 0 0 0 4 0 5
    3 11 11 7 5 4 1 0 0 0 5 0 0
    4 2 3 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Totals 24 36 15 21 7 1 0 0 2 9 0 5

    12 Responses to Scoring chances for/against: Feb 14th: Edm at LA

    1. February 15, 2009 at

      OK, here goes.

      1st period: A nice road period by the Oil with both scoring lines creating the chances. The only time the club got in trouble was when MacT got caught with the 4th line plus 3rd D pairing out against the Stoll line and then the Kopitar line came out to follow. I’ve often complained this year that our 4th line’s been caught at home playing against real lines and it’s easier to understand when it happens on the road. Still, look at the overall numbers and, well, we’ll get to that later;)

      2nd period: LA record’s the period’s FIRST 13 CHANCES. Sorry for screaming and I’ll try not to do it again;) Oilers had a good forecheck going to start the second frame but 49 takes a penalty when, wait for it, the 4th line plus 3rd D pairing gets caught out against one of the Kings top two lines. So, LA goes on the PP and then 24 takes a penalty to take us down two men and here comes the rodeo. Even when the Oilers weren’t down two men, their coverage and/or inability to keep the Kings away from the higher scoring areas was simply awful.

      3rd period: An excellent start to a 3rd period on the road when you’re holding the lead and only a couple or three excellent saves from Quick kept the Oilers from putting this one out of reach. They had 11 of the frame’s first 17 chances before the 13 penalty and bogus intentional offside call put the Oilers behind the eight ball.

      Overall, the Oilers lost the EV chance battle 15-21 but just take a closer look and you can see where the bodies are buried. #43-49 went a collective 3/17 and that’s worth noting because the top four D certainly did their job.

      Up front, the 4th line of 46-51-85 logged in at 1/24 and outside of a 0/5 night from 18, everyone else did their work and in some cases went above and beyond; 12 with a 9/5 comes to mind.

      Finally, the finishes of the Oilers EV chances:

      89 – three chances
      26 – three chances
      12 – three chances
      83 – two chances
      13 – two chances
      27 – one chance
      51 – one chance

      So, the problems are pretty plain to see.

    2. Unleaded
      February 15, 2009 at

      I think there might be a descrepancy with Rolosons numbers… I’d assume he’s on the ice for all of the chances against the Oilers, but by your numbers he’s on for 22 for and 28 against, yet the team totals are 24 for and 36 against. Why?

    3. February 15, 2009 at

      Specifically, he’s short +2/-3, all at EV. I can see the +2 being a delayed penalty sort of situation, but the -3?

    4. February 15, 2009 at

      it’s the OT chances but the other players are logged so that’s the main thing.

    5. February 15, 2009 at

      Good stuff, Dennis. I was wondering a couple of times — and you know which two times — about the wisdom of putting the 43-49 pairing with the 85-51-46 troika. That one sequence in the second period where Stortini took a massive hit along the boards to retain possession only to see Strudwick ice the puck, and then after the Kings threw the toughs over the boards against the already tired crew the Oil made a decent play to almost get it out and Strudwick overskated it and now it’s the proverbial Chinese fire drill with the inevitable reuslt of either a goal or a penalty. That shift was 2:33 for some of the participants and it was everything possible going wrong including the long change and the icing rule and home ice disadvantage. Anyway the bottom end of our roster really got exposed there.

      MacT has always preferred the third pairing with the fourth line because they’re all plumbers I guess, but it was rough going yesterday.

      The encouraging news is a solid performance from 5-24 in a much tougher minutes role, and Row-bert who to my eye had a tremendous game which is certainly supported by your numbers.

    6. David Staples
      February 15, 2009 at

      Strudwick-Peckham will have us hankering for the days of Strudwick-Staios.

    7. February 15, 2009 at

      bruce: my numbers will Always support things that actually happened;)

      Seriously, though, we’re in huge trouble with this current D.

      Every day we don’t buy – and I’m not saying we should – is an indicator that we intend to sell.

    8. RiversQ
      February 15, 2009 at

      The fact that the 3rd pairing always has that 4th line in front of them doesn’t help either. Honestly, they had a no-hitter going in this one. That’s awful.

    9. David Staples
      February 15, 2009 at

      A defenceman who can fill in on the back pairing shouldn’t cost so much, especially from a team in financial trouble looking to get rid of salary (Atlanta, Phoenix, Tampa, Florida)

    10. February 16, 2009 at

      Speaking of Fla, I checked on Derek Morris today to see how he was doing in Phx – not well – and went back through his numbers from last year where it said that him and Ballard were playing the tough min for the Yotes and doing a good job.

      So then I check out Ballard in Fla this year and he’s still doing fine there. Not sure what he’s making but there’s a good bet he’s underrated.

      And, I dunno, we could use a guy to move into the top four but it’s Katz money and he’ll have some to spend because of the 71 LTI so don’t you think the yotes would move Morris for a veritable song?

      • May 6, 2014 at

        A simple and inienltgelt point, well made. Thanks!

    11. David Staples
      February 16, 2009 at

      There is a market for bottom pairing, depth defenders right now, as teams gear up for Cup runs. But teams are also desperate to stop losing money, especially if teams are dipping in to their revenue-sharing money BEFORE they are really supposed to get that money at the end of the year. They’re already robbing Peter to pay Paul, I suspect, and the owners are already losing millions they can’t afford, so if some team is going to take a million or $800,000 so of salary off their hands for the final 25 games, I can see a lot of teams keen to do that.

      We hear all the time of owners saying to the GM: You got no choice, buddy, you got to sell off the star players pronto. So, I suspect, this is happening right now in a number of markets, and as the financial melt down picks up steam, it will be the order of the day in a number of NHL markets.

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