• Scoring chances for/against: Feb 11: Mtl at Edm

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    Scoring Chances for NHL Game Number 20809

    Team Period Time Note Oilers Opponent  
    MTL 1 19:52 10 24 27 35 44 83 8 14 25 27 31 79 5v5
    MTL 1 19:37 10 24 27 35 44 83 8 14 25 27 31 79 5v5
    MTL 1 19:00 12 26 35 37 77 89 3 11 31 36 44 67 5v5
    EDM 1 15:31 89 5 12 26 35 43 89 3 11 31 36 44 67 5v5
    EDM 1 14:21 12 12 13 35 37 44 89 8 21 31 40 79 5v4
    EDM 1 14:19 PP Goal 89 12 13 35 37 44 89 8 21 31 40 79 5v4
    MTL 1 11:15 24 35 44 46 51 85 11 31 36 51 67 71 5v5
    EDM 1 10:00 27 10 27 35 37 77 83 8 14 25 27 31 79 5v5
    EDM 1 9:15 83 10 18 35 37 77 83 6 8 21 27 31 79 5v5
    MTL 1 9:02 5 10 18 35 43 78 3 6 21 27 31 44 5v5
    MTL 1 8:58 5 10 18 35 43 78 3 6 21 31 44 46 5v5
    EDM 1 6:29 Goal 46 35 37 46 51 77 85 6 8 21 31 46 79 5v5
    EDM 1 5:23 18 5 13 18 35 43 78 8 14 25 27 31 79 5v5
    EDM 1 5:19 Goal 13 5 13 18 35 43 78 8 14 25 27 31 79 5v5
    MTL 1 1:16 PK 10 27 35 37 44 83 6 8 31 40 44 5v4
    EDM 1 0:25 PP Goal 83 10 27 35 37 44 83 6 8 31 40 44 5v4
    MTL 1 0:16 5 13 18 35 43 85 14 25 26 27 31 51 5v5
    MTL 1 0:15 5 13 18 35 43 85 14 25 26 27 31 51 5v5
    MTL 2 12:09 5 10 35 43 51 85 3 17 31 40 46 51 5v5
    MTL 2 11:45 5 35 43 46 51 85 3 17 31 40 46 51 5v5
    EDM 2 8:20 PK Goal 51 26 35 43 51 77 6 11 27 31 46 79 4v5
    MTL 2 7:59 PP 10 18 35 43 77 21 31 36 44 67 71 4v5
    MTL 2 7:48 PP 10 18 35 43 77 21 31 36 44 67 71 4v5
    EDM 2 5:52 5 10 24 27 35 83 11 26 31 36 51 67 5v5
    MTL 2 4:53 5 13 18 24 35 83 6 8 21 31 46 79 5v5
    MTL 2 3:08 5 12 26 35 43 89 14 26 27 31 46 51 5v5
    EDM 2 2:41 Goal 27 5 10 27 35 77 83 14 27 31 46 51 71 5v5
    MTL 2 0:14 PP 10 18 24 35 43 11 17 27 31 44 71 4v5
    EDM 3 14:07 PP Goal 35 44 46 51 77 85 3 31 40 44 46 5v4
    EDM 3 11:34 89 12 13 35 43 44 89 3 21 31 36 67 79 5v5
    MTL 3 10:22 5 18 35 43 51 85 8 14 25 31 46 51 5v5
    MTL 3 10:14 5 18 35 43 51 85 8 14 25 26 31 51 5v5
    MTL 3 9:15 5 24 27 35 78 89 6 11 27 31 71 79 5v5
    EDM 3 6:55 51 18 24 35 44 51 85 8 17 31 40 51 67 5v5
    MTL 3 4:05 PP 5 18 24 35 85 6 21 31 40 51 71 4v5
    MTL 3 3:52 PP 18 35 43 77 78 11 27 31 46 71 79 4v5
    MTL 3 3:41 PP 18 35 43 77 78 11 27 31 46 71 79 4v5
    # Player EV PP SH
    5 L. SMID 18:47 5 11 0:02 0 0 1:11 0 1
    10 S. HORCOFF 8:54 4 5 1:38 1 1 5:02 0 3
    12 R. NILSSON 13:41 2 2 1:26 2 0 0:00 0 0
    13 A. COGLIANO 11:38 3 3 2:08 2 0 0:06 0 0
    18 E. MOREAU 9:28 4 7 0:00 0 0 7:18 0 6
    24 S. STAIOS 17:37 2 5 0:05 0 0 5:09 0 2
    26 E. COLE 9:12 1 2 0:00 0 0 2:41 1 0
    27 D. PENNER 11:05 3 3 1:32 1 1 0:11 0 0
    35 D. ROLOSON 43:33 10 15 4:17 4 1 10:16 1 6
    37 D. GREBESHKOV 5:54 3 1 2:15 3 1 1:23 0 0
    43 J. STRUDWICK 14:51 4 9 0:09 0 0 4:34 1 5
    44 S. SOURAY 16:05 2 3 4:11 4 1 4:09 0 0
    46 Z. STORTINI 9:47 1 2 1:13 1 0 0:00 0 0
    51 K. BRODZIAK 9:38 2 5 0:31 1 0 2:25 1 0
    77 T. GILBERT 14:27 4 1 1:57 1 0 4:22 1 4
    78 M. POULIOT 8:26 2 3 0:00 0 0 0:21 0 2
    83 A. HEMSKY 8:15 4 3 1:29 1 1 0:00 0 0
    85 L. REDDOX 10:39 2 7 0:26 1 0 2:01 0 1
    89 S. GAGNER 16:21 2 3 2:17 2 0 0:11 0 0
    Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
    1 9 9 6 8 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    2 3 7 2 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 0
    3 3 6 2 3 1 0 0 0 0 3 0 0
    4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Totals 15 22 10 15 4 1 0 0 1 6 0 0

    9 Responses to Scoring chances for/against: Feb 11: Mtl at Edm

    1. February 12, 2009 at

      I suppose that in the year 2009 you can chalk up any game where a team scores seven goals as an anomaly.

      So, personally, I believe that’s where tonight’s win for the Oilers lies and especially considering I only had them down for 15 chances.

      Getting back to the lead of the story, here are some of the things that happened:

      - 13 pots a goal but you don’t really notice him the rest of the night.

      - Collectively, the 4th line of 46, 51 and 85 finish at 5/14 but they’re on the ice for a 46 marker and then they score a PPG in gar-bage time to boot.

      - the Oilers score three PP goals: they have four PP chances.

      This game reminded me of the 10-2 loss vs Buf when the Oilers couldn’t get a save from their netminders and all the Buf PPG were the result of outstanding and/or crafty playmaking. If you only saw that game through the dual lenses of where the opps came from and which team won that numerical battle, you would never have guessed the correct score even if given 20 attempts at doing so.

      So, let’s say everything rolled our way tonight and move on.

      The biggest imprint I’ll take from the game is how we looked without 71 and how we’ll look without both 71 and 37; the early word is that Grebs has a high ankle sprain and is two weeks away at best.

      Without you in our even-strength life, we’ll slowly wilt and die

      OK, let’s be honest. You’ve either enjoyed Motley Crue’s Dr. Feelgood or you’ve never listened to it. It’s one or the other. The Oilers are 2-1-1 AV – After Vishnovsky – albeit just the one win recorded in regulation. The Oilers have been outchanced at EV in those games by the combined mark of 49-64.  For those of us who suffered through the roll-the-puck-around-the-rim-to-win D corps of ’07, it’s always a bag-shrinking proposition to lose the cats who make the slick first pass. 44 has impressed me with his occasionally successful long bombing but he still needs all kinds of time to get it off and he can’t slip a guy and execute the breakout in two shakes of a lamb’s tail like Mssrs. 37, 71 and 77. The 24-44 pairing racked up another failing grade for tonight’s performance and I imagine that will continue. It’s unrealistic to think that either of 4 or 25 can move into the top four even close to seamlessly given they can’t even exploit the relatively lax minutes afforded the third pairing.
      Enter the drums of forward corps depth, Fernando Pisani.

      34 is just days away from returning and thus bolstering the ranks of the up front so I’d suggest a deal of either 12 or 26 for a puck-moving and two-way dman. 12 prolonged his scoring streak to eight games tonight with an assist on 89′s opening PPG and his affordable contract should make some teams think twice. 26′s done nothing consistent this season outside of drawing penalties but it’s the first full season in ages where he looks to finish with less than 50 points and there’s somebody somewhere who thinks they get more out of him. I dare say the Pens would try Bob Cole on Sid’s wing; let along Erik. The trick is to find a team that’s either got a guy tied up in an affordable pact like 12′s or a team that has a plethora of D and wants to move a rental for a rental.

      Weeks ago we speculated that one of our four mobile D could be used to land a scoring winger but now it looks like we may have to try and move a scoring winger – or wingers who have scored in the past – in order to re-mobilize our D.

      Lest you’ll see the forwards having to do a lot more work in order to necessitate the offensive flow coming from their own zone.

    2. coach pb9617
      February 12, 2009 at

      Once again, THE CAPTAIN Ethan Moreauuuuuuu is worst on the team among forwards.

    3. February 12, 2009 at

      Its a tough week upcoming even if they were healthy, Dennis, and with Lubo and Grebs out now, well, it could be a season killer with SJ and then two very hot clubs in Dallas and LA as well as the Yotes.

      They really have to beat Phoenix and then hope to eke out a point or two just to tread water and I don’t know if they’re up to it unless Roli stands on his head. He’s been showing his age lately too.

      Anyways as you pointed out Smid and Staios weren’t killing with the softest opposition. One moving up is not good. Both moving up is a recipe for disaster.

      Interesting to see what Lowe, oh I mean Tambellini, gives up over the next month to get this club into the April and beyond. As much as I want to see some playoff time I don’t see these guys doing much, even if Lubo were healthy.

      Hopefully they don’t sell the farm to go out in 5 first round.

    4. February 12, 2009 at

      Smid looks to have really struggled with his added ice time. I noticed it somewhat during the game but I didn’t expect 11 chances against, that’s for sure.

      This Grebeshkov injury is a real bugger because this would have been a great opportunity to observe Grebs to see if he’s worth the coin or merely a product of Visnovsky. Here’s hoping they don’t rush him back.

      It’s amazing to look at the numbers and see that there wasn’t any one line that was playing in dominant fashion. Bears out what yous saw watching the game of course which is half the reason the game was so enjoyable.

      Dennis, I agree that someone needs to be going out the door for a d-man and I expect it to be either Nilsson or Cole. Not sure how I feel about that decision. Nilsson reminds me quite a bit of Huselius. If Nilsson can mature into that kind of player it would be a shame to give him up just for a rental. Cole, on the other hand, brings some good things to this team. That said a third pair of Peckham and Strudwick should not be tolerated.

      Coach, I understand that you don’t think Liam Reddox is an NHL player, but he did play in the game after all :)

    5. February 12, 2009 at

      Poor little guy. And he scored too.

      All kidding aside though he’s a rook so he’s going to get eaten alive and I think that while using him in the top six is silly my bet is he’s going to be a solid bottom sixer who scores ten to fifteen a year.

    6. RiversQ
      February 12, 2009 at

      It’s not just the chances against for Smid either. He’s also taking some minors. I realize they were both high sticking in the book but the first one was really more of an interference penalty anyway. Going forward they may have to worry about trading EV chances for PP opportunities. There are good penalties, but all things in moderation.

    7. David Staples
      February 13, 2009 at

      I had it 11-10 Oilers in the first, then I got lazy and stopped counting. . . .

      Good analysis, Dennis. The loss of Grebs is going to be a killer, plain and simple.

      Maybe we can pick up Jason Smith and really do that 06-07 thing all over again.

    8. February 13, 2009 at

      David, please tell me you mean the 05-06 thing. I don’t think I would take another conclusion similar to 06-07 very well.

    9. February 13, 2009 at

      I am disconsolate over the loss of Grebs. Any chance we had of somehow making up for the loss of Visnovsky started with the other 3, and somebody really stepping into the opportunity, of which Grebs was clearly the most likely candidate. Would his play suffer without Visnovsky? or could he step up, carry a less skilled partner like, say, Smid, and deliver quality minutes on the first PP? He seemed to be responding, playing well in the blowout in Detroit, then playing almost 30 minutes in Minnesota before a dominant period plus against the Habs. Then disaster in the unlikely form of Tomas Fucking Plekanec.

      And while a bandaid like Frank Kaberle is possible, I honestly think that unless the optimistic “two weeks” really happens, these two injuries together will sink the season.

      Even if he does return, a guy who relies on his skating to the degree Grebs does will surely be significantly hampered for the duration. Too bad, cuz as Scott says this was an ideal opportunity for Denis to prove his worth, and for Oilers to truly realize what they’ve got. The clock’s ticking on decision time.

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